+1 to the proposal +1 to teach how to remove live issues to beginners, so they have a chance to train at detecting errors without the compiler
Pierre > Le 2 févr. 2017 à 17:48, Nicolas Fezans via swift-evolution > <swift-evolution@swift.org> a écrit : > > +1 > > On Tue, Jan 31, 2017 at 11:55 AM, Tino Heth via swift-evolution > <swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote: >>> One of the biggest issues that I saw while teaching Swift to newbies (most >>> had not programmed before) is confusion based on the early warnings/errors >>> that swift/xcode gives you as they type. What would happen is that they >>> would type a variable, and it would say… “You haven’t used this variable” >>> and so they would just click the fixit because they trust the compiler more >>> than they trust themselves. This would lead to a point where they were >>> very confused because some of the code was code they had thought through, >>> and some of it was changed by random fixits in ways they didn’t understand… >>> and so it would lead to more errors/fixits until they had errors which >>> couldn’t be fixed. >> >> >> Imho this is the best example to illustrate that inflationary use of >> warnings does more harm than good, and I hope it will be fixed. >> >> Having a bunch of conditions for warnings looks like overkill to me, and >> there are alternatives: >> - Only show when building >> - Only show in release builds >> - Linter >> >> That said, I'm going out on a limb and claim I already know how to write >> code and don't need basic schooling, and showing warnings before I hit >> compile is merely a distraction. >> >> But there are also Playgrounds which seem to be an important aspect of >> Swift, especially for newbies who could really benefit from some hints. >> There are no linters, no release builds, and even no regular builds for >> Playgrounds, so your model is the only one that works for them. >> >> Bottom line: >> +1 >> >> _______________________________________________ >> swift-evolution mailing list >> swift-evolution@swift.org >> https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution >> > > _______________________________________________ > swift-evolution mailing list > swift-evolution@swift.org > https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution
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