> On Feb 6, 2017, at 11:12 PM, Karl Wagner via swift-evolution 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> 
>> On 7 Feb 2017, at 06:05, Slava Pestov <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> On Feb 6, 2017, at 9:00 PM, Karl Wagner via swift-evolution 
>>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>>> - Nested protocols in generic types are not parameterised by the parent's 
>>> generic parameters.
>> So if I write GenericType<Int>.SomeProto and GenericType<String>.SomeProto, 
>> is it the same protocol? What about GenericType.SomeProto, is that allowed?
>> 
>> Slava
> 
> GenericType.SomeProto (without parameters) is the only spelling that is 
> allowed. There is no GenericType<Int>.SomeProto.
> 
> That way we avoid every bound-generic type creating a new protocol. 

I have only had a chance to scan the proposal so I will probably have more 
comments after I take a closer look, but I want to respond to this topic right 
away.

I understand the reason why you want it to work this way, but think it will be 
a significant source of confusion.  Protocols will behave differently than any 
other entity nested in a generic type.  This means the protocols nested in 
generic types will likely be counterintuitive for most people.  

I know this was the case for me while I was scanning the proposal.  I had to 
think carefully to understand how you want this to work and why you want this 
behavior.  That is despite it being a relatively direct consequence of the 
Swift’s design for protocols, which uses associated types and intentionally 
does not allow generic protocols.

It may be that there isn’t a good way to avoid that and we need to try to 
address it through documentation and education.  But I think this should 
receive careful consideration before we commit to this direction.

Overall the proposal looks really great!  I’m really looking forward to this 
feature.  

> I think it works really nicely when you consider what it would like like with 
> existential-based capturing. Notice that there is only one 
> ‘MyCollectionView.Source’, and compatibility is determined based on 
> existential constraints.
> 
> - Karl
> 
> 
> class MyCollectionView<MediaItem> : UICollectionView {
> 
>     protocol Source {
>         // [implicit] associatedtype MediaItem
>         func item(at: Int) -> MediaItem
>         var numberOfItems: Int { get }
>     }
>     var source: Any<MyCollectionView.Source where .MediaItem == MediaItem> // 
> Not possible today.
> }
> 
> class BookSource: MyCollectionView.Source {
>     typealias MediaItem = Book
> 
>     func item(at: Int) -> Book { /* ... */ }
>     var numberOfItems: Int     { /* ... */ }
> }
> 
> class DummySource<MediaItem>: MyCollectionView.Source where MediaItem: 
> DummyConstructable {
>     // associatedtype 'MediaItem' bound to generic parameter.
> 
>     func item(at: Int) -> MediaItem { /* ... */ }
>     var numberOfItems: Int          { /* ... */ } 
> }
> 
> MyCollectionView<Book>().source = BookSource()
> MyCollectionView<Book>().source = DummySource<Book>()
> MyCollectionView<Song>().source  = DummySource() // type is: DummySource<Song>
> MyCollectionView<Movie>().source = DummySource() // type is: 
> DummySource<Movie>
> 
> 
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