I do not agree on his statement on Objective-C (if more people opted in to -Weverything, with very very few silenced warnings really, and treating warnings as errors would show how much opt in safety there is to be had), but I find the overall article interesting:
http://blog.cleancoder.com/uncle-bob/2017/01/11/TheDarkPath.html Sent from my iPhone > On 19 Feb 2017, at 09:00, Rien via swift-evolution > <swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote: > > Hello All, > > Its Sunday, time for some reflection... > > One of the big plusses of Objective-C was that the entire manual was just a > few pages long. I have not looked it up, but IIRC the entire manual > describing the language was probably less than 50 pages. Much less if you > subtract the filler stuff. > > Now, Objective-C is -arguably- not a very ‘nice’ or aesthetically pleasing > language. > > Swift is a huge improvement aesthetically speaking. But at the cost of a much > larger user manual. Right of the bat it was clear to me that in Swift some of > the learning curve from the framework (Cocoa) was shifted into language > (Swift). I.e. Swift seemed specifically targeted to the idioms we used in > Objective-C/Cocoa. It was one of the reasons that I took to Swift immediately. > > Now that we have Swift 3, many of the original shortcomings have been filled. > A few remain, but imo not very many. > > That brings me to my concern: Swift seems to be on course to become a > behemoth of a language. > > I am absolutely convinced that everybody on this list has the best of > intentions. We all want the very best tool available. We want Swift to become > a shiny many facetted jewel among the languages. > > But in doing so we might -inadvertently- make Swift into a behemoth that can > do everything ... if you know how! > > In my opinion Swift is on course to become a very complex language where one > needs guru status to be a mid level programmer. Beginning programmers will > stand no chance whatsoever to maintain an app developed by an expert. (A bit > like C++, another extremely powerful language - that seems to have been > abandoned.) > > I have been on this list now for a few weeks, and I see very little push-back > on new suggestions. Most of the reactions are positive-constructive. IMO we > need more push-back. Without it behemoth status is all but guaranteed. > > I don’t know about the core team, I don’t know about Apple, I don’t know > where they want to go. > > I just want to make a plea here: Please stop Swift from becoming a behemoth. > > I don’t know if the millions (?) of Swift developers not on this list agree > with me. I somehow think they do, after all they are not on this list! They > are not looking to change Swift... > > Well, I just had to get that off my chest... > > To close this off, I do want to take this opportunity to thank the core team > for their work, I truly appreciate it! > And whatever may come, here is one happy Swift user! > > Best regards, > Rien > > Site: http://balancingrock.nl > Blog: http://swiftrien.blogspot.com > Github: http://github.com/Balancingrock > Project: http://swiftfire.nl > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > swift-evolution mailing list > swift-evolution@swift.org > https://lists.swift.org/mailman/listinfo/swift-evolution
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