> From my point of view the "underlying issues with access" is that we have no 
> well-designed scoped access modifiers in addition to module/file access 
> levels. I do think they are two axis of the access control/documentation, and 
> should work together to aim the better code quality and 'simplicity' in all 
> meanings.

I have started a new thread "Analysis of existing scopes" in the hope of trying 
to outline more precisely what we currently have in terms of scopes and where I 
see inconsistencies/problems.

I hope it is of more use than noise :-)

From first analysis, I have found that we may actually need both private *and* 
fileprivate ???!!!

> The one way I can think of scoped access modifiers is that they should have 
> explicit and clear naming, even if this will lead to more massive syntax 
> (like Matthew Johnson suggested scoped(scopeName)). While keep 
> public/internal/private(as was in Swift2) names simple and easy to use.

I, personally, would be wary of settling on names at this stage, preferring to 
define exactly what we've got currently, any shortcomings, and what we would be 
happy with in terms of scopes. Of course, we will have to use some sort of 
naming convention, just to be able to discuss things but, whether those names 
end up being final should not be of primary concern.

--
Joanna Carter
Carter Consulting

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