To solve the issues with the destructuring I’d suggest to make the labels fully 
optional, so extracting inner tuples wouldn’t be a pain in the ass as it is 
right now.

let tuple = (value: 0, point: (x: 0, y: 0, z: 0))

let (value, point: (x, y, z)) = tuple
Alternatively one could remove labels completely and let the compiler provide a 
suggestion for name of each value of the tuple destructuring, or you could your 
own names, while inner path would have some function-like syntax instead of 
confusing labels.

let (value, point(x, y, z)) = tuple
The latter would mean that tuple destructuring would always remove the labels 
from rhs tuple.

In the example from above we’d get a change from:

(value: Int, point: (x: Int, y: Int, z:Int)) to (Int, (Int, Int, Int)).



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Am 5. Mai 2017 um 14:07:11, André Videla (andre.vid...@gmail.com) schrieb:

It really strikes me as an inconsistency in the type system. The type system 
already enforces order in other labeled expression like function calls
func takePair(x: Int, y: Int) { }

takePair(y: 5, x: 5) // error

func takePair(y: Int, x: Int) { }

takePair(y: 5, x: 5) // ok, dispatches to the second function because it's the 
only one that type checks with labels

or enums

enum Pair {

    case point(x: Int, y: Int)

}

let p: Pair = .point(y: 3, x: 4) // error

Even if those features are semantically different and have nothing to do with 
the deconstruction of tuples they still suggest that labeling order is 
important. And teaches the programmer to expect that the order of labels is 
enforced.

If you assume that label order is important why would you expect this to 
typecheck?

let (y: a, x: b) = (x: 1, y: 2) 

let pair: (y: Int, x: Int) = (x: 1, y: 2)


2017-05-05 13:29 GMT+02:00 Adrian Zubarev via swift-evolution 
<swift-evolution@swift.org>:
I’m confused here. You’re referring to this example:

let pair = (x: 3, y: 5)
let swapped: (y: Int, x: Int) = pair
In this case you’re shuffling/swapping the labels of the type from:

(x: Int, y: Int) to (y: Int, x: Int), which from my understanding of the whole 
pitch should be an error. The tuple types may look similar, but because the 
labels have a totally different order, I’d assume the types are different even 
if they share the same labels and types.



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Am 5. Mai 2017 um 13:12:31, David Hart (da...@hartbit.com) schrieb:

But we’re not reordering labels, we’re assigning to a different variable which 
has different variable names. And I think it should work because we are not 
using the restructuring syntax.

On 5 May 2017, at 12:11, Adrian Zubarev <adrian.zuba...@devandartist.com> wrote:

I would assume the error is correct, because if we ban reordering than labeled 
tuple types will become incompatible if the labels are swapped, remember the 
strict order or labels. 




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Am 5. Mai 2017 um 12:08:59, David Hart via swift-evolution 
(swift-evolution@swift.org) schrieb:



On 5 May 2017, at 10:59, Xiaodi Wu via swift-evolution 
<swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:

On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 03:11 André Videla <andre.vid...@gmail.com> wrote:

Just to make sure:

let pair = (x: 3, y: 5)
Let swapped: (y: Int, x: Int) = pair

Error.

Why error here? In this case. It's not a label but he type.

Let (y: x1, x: y1) = pair

Error.

Let (x: x2, y: y2) = pair

With the revised pitch that no longer prohibits all labels, x2 is 3 and y2 is 
5. In the original version, error.

Let (x3, y3) = pair

x3 is 3 and y3 is 5.

After the change, What do (x_n, y_n) print and Which assignments are errors?

Andre Videla 

On 5 May 2017, at 09:31, Xiaodi Wu via swift-evolution 
<swift-evolution@swift.org> wrote:

On Fri, May 5, 2017 at 2:28 AM, Adrian Zubarev 
<adrian.zuba...@devandartist.com> wrote:
I’m not arguing to remove all labels in Swift. Labels are great, this is a fact 
for sure. The point I was trying to make is that labels in tuples how either a 
meaning or not at all.

// This is a shortcut for the tuple type `(x: Int, y: Int)`
let foo = (x: 0, y: 0)     

// In this case the labels are only used for description,     
// they do not server any benefit here are most likely redundant
let (x: x, y: y) = foo     
Labels elsewhere are a different story and I do support the cosmetic addition 
Chris Lattner sketched out here: 
https://lists.swift.org/pipermail/swift-evolution-announce/2016-July/000233.html

However this is about closures and not tuples, I don’t think this would anyhow 
affect the removal of labels in tuple destructuring.

Plus I don’t see this to create an inconsistent in Swift, because as I already 
said, labels in tuple destructuring are useless.

How come? I just illustrated their use. They help humans write correct code by 
allowing the compiler to check an assertion that the human knows which labels 
go with which positions in the tuple.
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