> On 11 Jun 2017, at 22:13, Gor Gyolchanyan via swift-evolution 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> I agree, this makes focusing on the right types of changes much easier and 
> helps us avoid turning Swift into an incoherent conglomeration of random 
> use-cases (*cough*, C#, *cough*).
> Now, the question is: when will be the time to officially push the factory 
> initializers proposal and which stage should it be targeting?

I think there's definitely a need for greater clarity; we could really do with 
better announcements on the list itself as to when the new phase begins and 
exactly what is in-scope, it also needs to be put more clearly on the 
swift-evolution repository.

Thing is; people are going to have ideas when they have them, and want to 
discuss them right away. I've been caught out numerous times with proposals 
that are almost immediately rejected as out of scope, and still have no idea 
when I'm supposed to resubmit them.

To be honest it's demoralising, as I find myself apathetic towards my own ideas 
as I have no idea when to revisit them, and by the time I do I've largely lost 
interest and moved on to other things.
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