Without a better C/C++ integration story, Swift is still born in my world.

> On Oct 28, 2017, at 8:04 AM, Goffredo Marocchi via swift-evolution 
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> 
> Very well said, I kind of think that at this point in time you do much more 
> for the language by investing into SPM properly than Actors/Coroutines if you 
> had to choose.
> 
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> On 28 Oct 2017, at 14:26, Karl Wagner via swift-evolution 
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>> 
>>> On 23. Oct 2017, at 19:41, Jean-Christophe Pastant via swift-evolution 
>>> <swift-evolution@swift.org <mailto:swift-evolution@swift.org>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi,
>>> 
>>> Is there any news about features that are willling to be integrated into 
>>> SPM 5?
>>> Those I see the most relevant:
>>> - iOS support
>>> - Some kind of configuration/settings support (debug, release, ...)
>>> 
>>> I'd like to hear about it from maintainers, especially if there's a 
>>> priority order we should follow.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> 
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>> 
>> Yup. My opinions here: 
>> https://lists.swift.org/pipermail/swift-evolution/Week-of-Mon-20170918/039885.html
>>  
>> <https://lists.swift.org/pipermail/swift-evolution/Week-of-Mon-20170918/039885.html>.
>>  Basically, I think we need support for 1) resources (or ‘assets’) and 2) 
>> cross-platform modules.
>> 
>> I think that a better package-manager would really accelerate the Swift 
>> ecosystem. We’ve had lots of people complaining about the lack of quality 
>> libraries (e.g. for maths and stats) during the Swift 3/4 phases. 
>> Personally, I still think it’s too much effort to integrate 3rd-party 
>> library projects in to my existing projects and to contribute to them, which 
>> is why I usually don’t.
>> 
>> As for Xcode integration: Obviously only Apple can comment on the Xcode 
>> roadmap - but I will point out that, like the rest of Swift and LLVM, the 
>> package manager is open-source and designed with a library architecture. 
>> That means that any IDE could integrate support for SwiftPM, not just Xcode. 
>> As users, we can say what we’d like Apple to do with Xcode, but it’s all 
>> academic - since SwiftPM doesn’t support bundled assets, it can’t support 
>> graphical applications. Bundled assets aren’t just an issue for GUI 
>> applications, though - localisation tables, prepared databases and test 
>> resources are useful for any kind of package.
>> 
>> So, for me the issue with assets is that some platforms have unique compiled 
>> formats (e.g. Apple’s asset catalogues) which support asset variants for 
>> localisations and display resolution. Obviously I want my output App to 
>> support all of these features. In fact, most modern platforms have support 
>> for some kind of asset variants — Apple calls it a TraitCollection, Android 
>> calls it a Context — so do we want to support this concept natively somehow 
>> in SwiftPM?
>> 
>> I mean, let’s say I have this awesome cross-platform Swift 
>> application/library, and I’ve listed some files in my Package.swift and I 
>> can find them again at runtime on any platform - all cool. Now, I want to 
>> localise my package - what do I do? I’m going to have to create some 
>> middleware to translate platform-specific concepts in to a baseline which I 
>> can look-up based on some mangling I’m going to create for the file names. 
>> Localisation is a problem on servers, too (particularly for error messages), 
>> so some idea of asset variants could be something universal-enough to 
>> include in the package manager.
>> 
>> - Karl
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