Thanks a lot Hooman, I understand better now.

The part that tripped me was the fact that value types would be copied every 
time. 

I didn’t realise I wasn’t making a copy of the value type in my program, the 
same instance of the value type was getting passed (as Quinn and you had 
pointed out).

Thanks and regards,
Muthu


> On 31 Jul 2017, at 4:27 AM, Hooman Mehr <hoo...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Jul 24, 2017, at 2:38 AM, somu subscribe via swift-users 
>> <swift-users@swift.org <mailto:swift-users@swift.org>> wrote:
>> 
>> Thank a lot Quinn, your solution to use inout works well without crashing.
>> 
>> Question 1:
>> - Also changing Helper to a class doesn’t seem to crash. Is that a solution 
>> that wouldn’t cause a crash or just works by chance ?
> 
> It is not by chance. It illustrates the key difference between classes and 
> structs: class instances are passed by reference because they have identity. 
> The identity of an object never mutates: If you change `Helper` to a class, 
> then you can also change `helper` property from `var` to `let` and still 
> change the value of `v1` inside `helper`. If this is not clear to you, I 
> recommend you first get a better understanding of differences between value 
> types and reference types and especially learn about object aliasing before 
> deciding which approach is the right approach for you. 
> 
>> 
>> 
>> Background:
>> Just a little background into what I was trying to achieve (I could be 
>> wrong):
>> 
>> - I have a set of classes C1, C2, C3 which has a lot of common code
>> 
>> - I would like to build something that can be reused without exposing the 
>> implementation details. (I can subclass but would expose the underlying 
>> functions, same applies to protocol as well)
>> 
>> - I thought I would build helper class / struct which would contain the 
>> common code. I can make the helper a private property so that the functions 
>> wouldn’t be exposed to the instances of C1, C2, C3. In order to achieve that 
>> I had to pass some functions from C1 into the Helper struct.
>> 
>> Question 2:
>> - Is this problem (hiding implementation details) normally tackled using 
>> Helper class (or struct) or is there a more better approach ?
> 
> It depends on what you mean by hiding and whether those classes sharing 
> common implementation details also share a common public API (protocol) or 
> ancestry (shared superclass). 
> 
> Generally, what you call `Helper` is the correct way to go if the following 
> is true: 
> 
> Your `Helper` makes logical sense as something coherent with its own 
> meaningful properties, so that it can be given a specific name that makes 
> sense (besides a very broad name such as your example `Helper`).
> 
>> 
>> Thanks and regards,
>> Muthu
>> 
>> 
>>> On 24 Jul 2017, at 4:14 PM, Quinn The Eskimo! via swift-users 
>>> <swift-users@swift.org <mailto:swift-users@swift.org>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 24 Jul 2017, at 07:04, somu subscribe via swift-users 
>>> <swift-users@swift.org <mailto:swift-users@swift.org>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> - Is there a bug in my code which is being detected in Xcode 9 ?
>>> 
>>> Yes.  The problem here is that `doSomething(f1:)` is a mutating function, 
>>> so it acts like it takes an `inout` reference to `self.helper`.  That’s one 
>>> mutable reference.  It then calls `Car.f1()`, which tries to get a 
>>> non-mutating reference to exactly the same struct.  This is outlawed in 
>>> Swift 4 as part of the memory ownership effort.
>>> 
>>> You can read more about the specific change in SE-0176 “Enforce Exclusive 
>>> Access to Memory”.
>>> 
>>> <https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/proposals/0176-enforce-exclusive-access-to-memory.md
>>>  
>>> <https://github.com/apple/swift-evolution/blob/master/proposals/0176-enforce-exclusive-access-to-memory.md>>
>>> 
>>> And the general background to this in the “Ownership Manifesto"
>>> 
>>> <https://github.com/apple/swift/blob/master/docs/OwnershipManifesto.md 
>>> <https://github.com/apple/swift/blob/master/docs/OwnershipManifesto.md>>
>>> 
>>>> If so could you please explain and suggest an alternate approach / fix ?
>>> 
>>> It’s hard to offer concrete suggestions without knowing more about your 
>>> high-level goals.  One option is for `doSomething(f1:)` to pass the `inout` 
>>> reference through to `f1`.  For example:
>>> 
>>>    mutating func doSomething(f1: (inout Helper) -> ()) {
>>>        f1(&self)
>>>    }
>>> 
>>>    func f1(h: inout Helper) {
>>>        _ = h.v1  // no crash
>>>    }
>>> 
>>> but whether that makes sense in your code is for you to decide.
>>> 
>>> Share and Enjoy
>>> --
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