The fix looks good to me.
Thanks,
Alexandr.
On 9/24/2015 8:27 PM, Semyon Sadetsky wrote:
On 9/22/2015 5:04 PM, Semyon Sadetsky wrote:
On 9/22/2015 4:18 PM, Alexander Scherbatiy wrote:
On 9/21/2015 12:19 PM, Semyon Sadetsky wrote:
On 9/21/2015 11:27 AM, Alexandr Scherbatiy wrote:
18.09.2015 19:22, Semyon Sadetsky пишет:
On 9/18/2015 6:51 PM, Alexander Scherbatiy wrote:
On 9/16/2015 5:14 PM, Semyon Sadetsky wrote:
On 9/16/2015 1:38 PM, Alexander Scherbatiy wrote:
On 9/15/2015 10:37 PM, Semyon Sadetsky wrote:
On 9/15/2015 6:16 PM, Alexander Scherbatiy wrote:
On 9/11/2015 7:24 PM, Semyon Sadetsky wrote:
The deadlock that you described exists only because
AbstractDocument uses locks in the
UndoableEdit.undo()/redo() methods.
Applications that use UndoManager and do not use lock in
the UndoableEdit.undo()/redo() methods do not have deadlock.
They worked fine before the fix and can lost data
consistency after the fix. This is definitely the regression.
You mean scenario when a document that does not support
synchronization but anyway is modified from several threads.
You can expect that such scenario is functional only if such
document is a single atomic field.
I updated the fix
http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~ssadetsky/8030702/webrev.04/ take
it into account.
This looks better. There are just some comments:
- The 'inProgress' variable in
UndoManager.undo()/redo()/undoOrRedo() methods should have
synchronization.
Is it possible to move 'if (inProgress)' check into
tryUndoOrRedo() method similarly to as it was used in the
version 2 of the fix?
- UndoManager line 489: why not to use the original check
from the undoOrRedo() method "if (indexOfNextAdd ==
edits.size())" to pick up undo or redo action?
- UndoManager line 516: An undoable edit can be requested
two times for the ANY action because the 'undo' variable can
have old value in the second synchronized block.
Even the logic is right it is better to take an edit
based on the 'action' variable.
- UndoManager.undoOrRedo() throws CannotUndoException now
instead of CannotRedoException if the redo action is not
possible.
- It is possible to get rid of the 'done ' variable in
UndoManager.tryUndoOrRedo() just simply have an infinity loop.
- It is possible to use Boolean values TRUE, FALSE or null
for three-state logic. But it is up to you to choose enums or
Boolean in the fix.
I made the changes:
http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~ssadetsky/8030702/webrev.05/ except
for the last one. Actually triple Boolean logic is a bad style.
There are two main synchronized block in the
tryUndoOrRedo() method: one to look up an undoable edit lock and
the second which use the undoable edit lock.
In the version 02 of the fix the original code from undo()
and redo() methods were moved to these two blocks.
It is not clear why don't you want to do the same (just
call tryUndoOrRedo() with necessary argument for all
UndoManager.undo()/redo()/undoOrRedo() methods) in the latest fix?
Splitting logic like:
-------------------
420 public void undo() throws CannotUndoException {
421 if (!tryUndoOrRedo(Action.UNDO)) {
422 synchronized (this) {
423 super.undo();
424 }
425 }
426 }
-------------------
always have a question that before the fix the super.undo()
was called only for '!inProgress' condition but now the
'inProgress' can be changed when super.undo() is called.
inProgress can be changed when super.undo() is called because it
is protected by synchronized block.
Imagine that undo() is called with inProgress = true, then it is
blocked by the concurrent document change, and after the retry it
finds inProgress= false, so it cannot undo by usual way anymore,
because the UndoManager is converted into a single edit and it
should undo using super.undo().
I am talking about slightly different thing.
This is the code for the undo() method before the fix.
-------------------
410 public synchronized void undo() throws CannotUndoException {
411 if (inProgress) {
412 UndoableEdit edit = editToBeUndone();
...
416 undoTo(edit);
417 } else {
418 super.undo();
419 }
420 }
-------------------
Checking the 'inProgress' variable and calling undoTo(edit) and
super.undo() is done under the same synchronized block.
Let's slightly modify the code:
-------------------
public void undo() throws CannotUndoException {
boolean res = true;
synchronized (this) {
if (inProgress) {
UndoableEdit edit = editToBeUndone();
...
undoTo(edit);
It is not possible to execute undoTo() here because it will cause
the deadlock we are trying to fix.
May be with the updated sample it would be cleaner.
This is just a some method which uses a synchronization:
----------------------
public synchronized void someMethod() {
if (inProgress) {
// do something
} else {
// do something else
}
}
----------------------
This is an updated method:
-------------------
public void someMethod() {
boolean res = true;
[some synchronization]
if (inProgress) {
// do something
} else {
res = false;
}
[end of some synchronization]
[some synchronization]
if (!res) {
do something else
}
[end of some synchronization]
}
-------------------
The problem with the updated method is that inProgress variable
can have a value different from 'res' and the 'do something else'
action can be executed even inProgress is true.
InProgress goes only one direction true->false. Once it detected as
false the super method should be called always.
Alexander, the version as per our off-line discussion:
http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~ssadetsky/8030702/webrev.06/
} else {
res = false;
}
}
synchronized (this) {
if (!res) {
super.undo();
}
}
}
-------------------
Now the 'inProgress' variable checking and undoTo() is done on
the first synchronized block.
The result of the inProgress is used in the second synchronized
block. But the 'inProgress' variable
can be changed between these two blocks and we can't relay on
the 'res' value.
Instead of 'res' the original 'inProgress' value should be
checked in the second synchronized block and if it is true the
undoTo(edit) should be called again instead of super.undo().
Above you provided the code logic bore the fix which is reworked
because it does not work. Why do we need to discuss it?
We need to discuss this because the inProgress variable in your
latest fix is used exactly as in the provided sample.
UndoManager line: 473 tryUndoOrRedo(action) returns false if
inProgress is false.
UndoManager line: 422 super.undo() is called if
tryUndoOrRedo(action) returns false despite the real 'inProgress'
variable value.
Thanks,
Alexandr.
Thanks,
Alexandr.
Thanks,
Alexandr.
Thanks,
Alexandr.
Thanks,
Alexandr.
Thanks,
Alexandr.
Thanks,
Alexandr.
Also synchronization is needed to provide coherency
with the state of the document. If those two are not
provided the document can be corrupted. This is enough
most usages.
Thanks,
Alexandr.
Thanks,
Alexandr.
Thanks,
Alexandr.
Thanks,
Alexandr.
It is
I still think that updating the
UndoableManager for one particular
AbstarctManager class can be made only
after investigation of other
possibilities.
You could start with choosing
behavior which you want to achieve or
to keep, like:
- fix the deadlock
- atomic undo() method
- serialization
- immediate roll back action
- abstract document consistency
after undo() action
- ...
We need to pay attention to the
deadlock at first of cause.
Serialization and consistency are
achieved. Any concrete doubts?
immediate roll back action -- ?what is
that?
"if user starts a long edit
operation and press undo after that he
expects when the long edit is finished
it will be rolled back immediately." -
what ever does it mean.
Got it. It will work within the fairness.
We have discussed this allready.
I sacrificed undo/redo call atomicity
because you did not like doc references
in undo manager. I think it is not
important for the most multithreaded
undo/redo scenarios.
Could you give more details about it.
Which doc references do you mean?
Your statement a dozen iterations ago
was: "There should be a way to solve
these problems without storing links of
external classes inside the UndoManager."
I guess you used "link" term for
references. I would recommend to use
standard terminology: reference to the
object, dependency on the class, etc...
to avoid misunderstanding.
Usually "link" is in a browser document
or a tool that produces executables after
compilation.
and look which of the following
approaches can better solve them
(where the fist is more preferred and
the last is less preferred case):
- using UndoManager as is without
adding links from some specific
classes to it
- provide an API for UndoManager to
work with UndoableEdit-s which have
synchronization for undo/redo methods
- adding links of external classes
directly to UndoManager
What do you mean under link term? A
reference or dependency?
There are two options. If
UndoManager is a class designed to be
only used with the AbstractDocument and
placed in the javax.swing.text package
it definitly can have special code to
handle an abstract document instance in
a special way.
If UndoManager is a general purpose
class, it looks strange that it handles
some special classes in different way as
all others. It usually mean that there
are some design problems in this class.
That is why I just asked to look at
other ways at first. Only if other
solutions are not suitable it has sense
to look at the way that you are provided.
Correct. I introduced extra dependency.
It is optional, but anyway. Of cause
there is a design problem in undo
javax.swing.undo package. But I cannot
rewrite the API because we will get a
compatibility problem then. I mentioned
this several times in this thread.
We are constrained by compatibility
requirements. UndoManager is a broadly
used class we cannot change the API so
drastically.
I think that you can generalize your
solution just adding an internal
interface like sun.swing.UndoableEditLock.
Every UndoableEdit which implements
this interface can provide a lock for
its synchronization.
If this will work it can be made
public in some days so other application
can also have proper synchronization for
their undo/redo actions.
OK. I added it.
http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~ssadetsky/8030702/webrev.02/
- We can return a public class that
implements an internal interface, but we
can't expose an internal API in the public
class definition.
May be it is possible to wrap an
UndoableEdit to the
UndoableEditLockSupport in the
UndoableEditEvent or in some other place.
- The similar code is used both in the
UndoManager.undo() and redo() methods. Is
it possible to move this code to one
method that does undo or redo depending on
the given argument?
OK. accepted.
http://cr.openjdk.java.net/~ssadetsky/8030702/webrev.03/
- UndoManager.undo/redo methods
In your previous fix inProgress
variable and the super call were used under
the lock. It may leads to some
synchronization issues if you decide to omit
it.
- UndoManager.tryUndoOrRedo()
It is possible to get rid of 'done'
variable just using an infinity loop and
return the exact result where the loop is
terminated.
-
AbstractDocument.DefaultDocumentEventUndoableWrapper
implements both UndoableEdit and
UndoableEditLockSupport interfaces but
UndoableEditLockSupport already extends
UndoableEdit.
- "@since 1.9" javadoc for
DefaultDocumentEventUndoableWrapper.lockEdit()/unlockEdit()
methods really belongs to the
UndoableEditLockSupport methods.
In this case there is no need for
{@inheritDoc} tag.
Thanks,
Alexandr.
Thanks,
Alexandr.
Thanks,
Alexandr.
"adding links of external classes
directly to UndoManager" - Sorry, did
not catch what are you about? Could you
clarify?
--Semyon
Thanks,
Alexandr.
--Semyon
There is a mistake in your
scenario steps:
fireUndoableEditUpdate() is
called before the freeing the
lock (see
AbstractDocument.handleInsertString()
method).
Yet another argument do not
do this from the user
experience: if user starts a
long edit operation and
press undo after that he
expects when the long edit
is finished it will be
rolled back immediately.
It is not true. The first
process adds his undo edit to
the UndoManager. While a user
trying to press undo the
second long process can be
started.
That is what led to this issue
because when undo is in
progress document writing
should be allowed.
Sorry but I didn't see why is
"It not true"? Then what is
your expectation when you
press undo button while edit
is not finished yet and there
is no way to abort it?
It would be good if it
works as you described. But it
does not work in this way with
or without your fix.
undo() action has writeLock
in AbstractDocument and because
of it is always executed after
insert string action.
If a user sees that undo is
available, he can call it but
the second long insertString
process can start earlier and
acquire the writeLock.
That is what we are going to
fix. And this does work after
this fix. Undo call will be
blocked by the long edit until
the last is done without any
deadlocks. And when edit is done
undo() will acquire the lock and
prevent any new edits until
undo() is done. Please provide a
scenario when in your opinion it
does not wok.
The first process starts for
5 minutes. When it is finished a
user sees that he can press undo.
While he is pressing undo button,
the second long process starts
for 10 minutes and acquire the
write lock. The user presses undo
but he needs to wait 10 more
minutes until the second process
is finished.
Actually, if two or more threads
are waiting for a monitor it is
not determined which one will get
the control after the signal. To
order that the ReentrantLock API
could be used but AbstractDocument
uses wait/notify for locking. I
think it is not worth to dig so
deep. It does not cause any issues
The issue that is considered is
"if user starts a long edit
operation and press undo after that
he expects when the long edit is
finished it will be rolled back
immediately."
If you are agree that it is not
always possible to do the roll back
"immediately" there is no point to
discussion.
I agree. On that level it is not
possible to predict the order
exactly in such scenario. But the
state of the document will be
consistent. And it is possible to
have it predictable using lock
fairness.
because undo() always get the last
edit anyway. If it will be
important for somebody to preserve
the execution order on that level
of details we will fix it.
So undo should be executed
after the edit is fully
performed because the
corresponding UndoableEdit
which undos this edit can be
produced only after the edit
is done.
I think at first we need to
look on the situation
externally rather than
concentrate on
implementation questions
like in which class do
references go.
Yes, please look on this
situation from a user point
of view which wants to
implement simple Java Painter.
But could you describe this
scenario? Just steps when this
simple Painter fails under the
proposed fix?I
Note, if this Painter's
content is not an
AbstarctDocument it will work
as before the fix.
Any application that uses
UndoManager and wants to have
the same synchronization (have
the same lock both for
UndoableEdit adding and undo()
method execution) will have the
same deadlock problems.
As I have already written:
---------------
Consider someone writes Java
Painter application where it is
possible to draw lines and
images and uses UndoManager for
undo/redo actions.
He might want that it was
possible to work with copied
images. He can get lock on
ctrl+v action, process an
image, prepare UndoableEdit and
notify the UndoManager.
He also can use lock/unlock
in the undo action to have a
consistent state with the
processed image. If someone
calls undo action during the
image processing and gets a
deadlock does it mean that link
from Java Painter need to be
added to the UndoManager?
---------------
Still do not understand the
steps for your Painter scenario.
A link (reference?) can be added
if it is required to implement
functionality. If the content is
not an AbstarctDocument it may
be required to implement custom
UndoManager to support the same
behavior.
What is the difference
between the AbstractDocument and
other classes (in Swing or user
defined)? Do you mean that the
UndoManager is intended only to
be used with AbstractDocument and
it shouldn't be used in other
cases where undo/redo actions are
required for non text data?
No, undo manager can be used with
any classes. But since we have it
assigned to AbstarctDocument so
often we need to do our best to
make undo manager working with it
correctly because users do not
like deadlocks usualy. For other
classes we cannot provide
synchronization by default because
there is no API to get the lock.
So it remains up to user how to
provide the undo manager
synchronization with the object it
controls for other classes
What we should do just to
understand that the same deadlock
can happen in an user applications
because he wants to use the same
synchronization both for the data
processing and for the undo action.
If so, there should be two
investigations:
1. Is it possible to achieve the
requested goals without changing
UndoManager? In other words The
UndoManager should be used in
proper way as it is required by its
design.
2. Is it possible to update the
UndoManager API to provide
functionality that meets new requests?
With API change it is reachable. But
I would preserve the current API as
less constrained. If we add some
methods for locking we will
determine the way how a user should
synchronize his undoable content.
And user may not need any
synchronization at all. We should
keep in mind this opportunity as well.
Only after this discussion there
can be a reason to look to other ways.
Thanks,
Alexandr.
I think our undo manager
implementation do not pretend to
be used as the global undo manager
for big complex applications and
it cannot cover all possible undo
approaches. But some basic
functionality can be provided and
it should be usable. Without edits
serialization approach it is not
usable for multithreaded use. So
either we do not pretend to
provide a multithreaded undo
manager and remove all synchronize
keywords from UndoManager class,
either we need to support
serialization approach which does
not cause deadlocks.
Thanks,
Alexandr.
I don't see a contradiction
here, could you point on it more
precisely?
Thanks,
Alexandr.
Thanks,
Alexandr.
Thanks,
Alexandr.
--Semyon
Thanks,
Alexandr.
--Semyon
On 7/30/2015 5:27 PM,
Alexander Scherbatiy wrote:
Consider someone
writes Java Painter
application where it is
possible to draw lines
and images and uses
UndoManager for
undo/redo actions.
He might want that
it was possible to work
with copied images. He
can get lock on ctrl+v
action, process an
image, prepare
UndoableEdit and notify
the UndoManager.
He also can use
lock/unlock in the undo
action to have a
consistent state with
the processed image. If
someone calls undo
action during the image
processing and gets a
deadlock does it mean
that link from Java
Painter need to be
added to the UndoManager?
Thanks,
Alexandr.
It looks like
AbstractDocument
violates UndoManager
synchronization
contract when it both
use lock to work with
UndoManager and in
the implemented
undo() method.
Thanks,
Alexandr.
--Semyon