Think about your management as culturally Asian.  Stereotypical, maybe, but
the good way to get someone to go for your ideas is to make them (a) think
it's their idea, and what a good and wise idea it is, and (b) believe
your mission
is to make the sun shine out of their a**.

Sorry, got a bit offtopic.  Now really back under my rock.

-John

Umberto Annino wrote:

>the problem is that EVEN if you can communicate your good ideas to the
>management, they would still follow their CYA guideline. what if you can
>sell your idea, but basically they don't really understand it so they fall
>back to CYA mode?
>
>I have made the experience, no matter if the company is large or small, if
>your manager(s) are up to CYA, it doesn't matter how good you can "sell"
>your ideas. typically, you can find out about this if your idea (when you
>present it) gets talked down (too expensive, too complicated, too early for
>that etc.), but then, couple of months later, management presents it to the
>board and their bosses as "our new strategy". then you know you were right,
>but someone else will get the appraisal for it (after they did a thorough
>"risk assessment" in terms of CYA, if they rate it OK, they will present it
>to their management, that's why it takes some time).
>
>cheers
>umbi
>
>  
>
>>--- Urspr�ngliche Nachricht ---
>>Von: John Morgan Salomon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>An: [email protected]
>>Betreff: Re: [swinog] Why Swisscom/Bluewin can't get M$ IPTV to fly
>>Datum: Fri, 03 Jun 2005 11:44:52 +0200
>>
>>This is another thing I notice quite frequently--too many technically
>>gifted
>>people can't express themselves and "sell" good ideas.  No matter how
>>technically superior a concept may be, you have to be able to understand
>>and tie in concepts like operational/business risk and total cost of
>>ownership.
>>This means, yes, powerpoint.  It may seem like b.s., but many of the guys
>>making the decisions in the end are not stupid--for them these are
>>perfectly
>>valid criteria.
>>
>>The reason you see so many technical stupidities being sold & implemented
>>is because someone with little or no understanding of engineering reality
>>was able to communicate the above ideas to "the business" well.  Something
>>to think about.
>>
>>-John [and now back under my rock]
>>
>>Fredy Kuenzler wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>John Morgan Salomon wrote:
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>CYA = cover your ass, cowardly & unimaginative management, that's all
>>>>it is. Don't read so much evil into it.
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>That's exactly the point why in large companies or institutions
>>>(goverment etc.) decisions take ages. Noone wants to be held
>>>      
>>>
>>responsible.
>>    
>>
>>>F.
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