Daniel Lorch wrote:

> > Are you sure? Isn't that exactly the point of asymmetric cryptography?
> > The way I see it, TLS and SSL work like this (analogous to PGP):

You're almost right.


> > 1. The client connects to the server and obtains the server's public
> >    key. The public key is a mathematical recipe to encode (but not
> >    decode) a message for a specific recipient.

ACK.

> > 2. Using this public key, the client encodes the message (cleartext ->
> >    ciphertext). Now the interesting part is, that the client isn't able
> >    to decode this cipher text he just encoded, because he doesn't have
> >    the private key (that's why it is also necessary to always encrypt
> >    PGP messages to yourself, otherwise you won't be able to read them
> >    later on in your "sent" box).

SMTP/TLS does not encrypt individual messages - as it's name implies, it
works on the *transport* layer. And there, the public key exchange is
used to agree on a symmetric session key.

Btw., neither server nor client public keys would technically be
required; anonymous DH would work as well (although it would not make
much sense...).


> > I could now connect to the mail server, obtain the public key and
> > generate as many cleartext/ciphertext pairs as I want and I still would
> > not be able to guess the private key from that information.

Of course, known-plaintext, replay and similar attacks on TLS and SSL
are theoretically possible. However, I have not heard of practically
possible or generally successful attacks.

-- Matthias


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