Let's discuss it some more and we'll make news on heise.de once again 
http://www.heise.de/newsticker/Schweizer-Richterin-verlangt-Website-Sperrung-von-Providern--/meldung/33051
 :-)

Regards,

Mike

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-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Im 
Auftrag von Viktor Steinmann
Gesendet: Montag, 16. Februar 2009 17:02
An: Andreas Fink
Cc: [email protected]
Betreff: Re: [swinog] Post from Canton de Vaud

Same same, but different...?

http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/msg00847.html

Kind regards,
Viktor


Andreas Fink wrote:
> Hello Collegues,
>
> Today I got a document sent to us because we are listed as ISP. You 
> probably have all received it as well.
> Its a case of a Party A against "unknown" who has said something 
> wrong/bad about Party A. (Ehrverletzung/Verleumdung etc.)
>
> While I can understand that Party A tries to get their right to get 
> things wrong written about them is being changed to correct, the ISP's 
> of Switzerland are now out of a sudden involved in this as they are 
> "in charge of blocking" the corresponding site.
>
>
> Also what upset's me most is the sentence that this is the status of a 
> "Verfügung" from a "Untersuchungsrichter" and there is no legal way to 
> oppose ("gegen die vorliegende Verügung keine Rechtsmittel möglich 
> sind"). This might be true for the immediately accused as they had 
> their chance to answer but for us "other 3rd party" ISP's it can not 
> hold true as we have never heard of this case ever before and we have 
> not been involved in this case before.
>
> I would suggest the ISP community of Switzerland stands up united 
> against such ridiculous practice of judges who have no clue how the 
> internet works:
>
>
> I see two possible ways
>
>
> a) All ISP's send an INvoice to the Party A for the installment of the 
> filters. They have caused this work so they are liable for the cost. 
> Its not our fault.
>
> b) all ISP's object in written to the decision of being in this case 
> and oppose.
>
> or both.
>
>
> What are your oppinions?
>
>
>
>
>
> Andreas Fink
>
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