[Andreas: please configure your mailer to do line breaks at ~76 or so as
my screen still is not 1500 chars wide and a lot of mailers just extend
the scrollbar to the right right right right right... especially when
one replies, which makes it kind of annoying, just think line breaks
make you look cool!]
On 2010-10-29 13:48, Andreas Fink wrote:
> [..] internet provider just transports content but is not auditing or
> controlling the content and actually is not even allowed to look at
> what contents go over his wire.
Which is exactly what a certain ISPs SMTP setup is currently doing:
- It man-in-the-middles TCP connections on port 25.
- It does/follows the full SMTP conversation.
- It parses and scores the SMTP data portion.
- It rejects the message if it does not like it.
Clearly that ISP has something wrong. The question is of course also
what kind of logging they are doing and how many laws they are breaking...
I have still not received a proper snailmail notifation that my ISP is
doing this (and possibly other nefarious) methods to the Internet
connectivity that I pay for. Nor have I found a way to get this
disabled, legally I don't even know that it exists... heck the only
reason we do know it exists is because it broke already some people's
email setups.
There is only a, hard to find unless one knows the google search query,
page which states in part:
"This filter now also checks e-mail from free e-mail providers such as
GMX, Google Mail and Hotmail if the e-mail is sent from a [..] connection."
Only those providers? Strange as it is port 25 the whole article is
about, and that is where SMTP goes over, all those "free e-mail
providers" (okay GMX maybe not) use HTTP as the primary transmission
method. Or can we make the conclusion that port 80 is also being
inspected by this "ISP"?
It also breaks semi-broken setups causing more problems for other ISPs:
"As a result of the introduction of the new spam filter, e-mail that is
sent with SMTP authentication via port 25 can no longer be sent."
So very nice of them.
To come back to the original discussion, obviously ISPs are looking at
the content, especially when there is a lawful tap involved. The
question is now, how this can be communicated to the customers as it is
their right to know what is being done with their traffic for which they
are paying.
The further question is, should an association like this have ground
rules for their membership in which when one becomes a member that
states amongst others:
- That the ISP is not doing content-inspection
- That the ISP is not doing content modification
(eg there are ISPs who attempted to change Google Ads with their
own! Although I have not heard about this yet for Switzerland)
- That they have a proper abuse contact and handling system.
Greets,
Jeroen
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