> do a traceroute form the SwiNOG route viewer... you will see that you CAN
> reach msn's network...
> telnet://144.85.10.248
> traceroute 64.4.13.170

funny...
those traceroutes where done at the same time. once from my workstation, 
once from a router... :)

i think they are blocking icmp because of a dos because i can get a 
connection to port 80.

--snip
C:\WINNT>tracert 64.4.13.170

Routenverfolgung zu gateway.messenger.hotmail.com [64.4.13.170]  �ber 
maximal 30
  Abschnitte:

   1   <10 ms   <10 ms   <10 ms  e0-0.schl-gps.minime.as8833.net 
[195.162.161.62]

   2   <10 ms   <10 ms   <10 ms  fas8-0-1.zuri-tele.bigboy.as8833.net 
[195.162.19
1.254]
   3   <10 ms   <10 ms   <10 ms  s4-1.zur14s01.sunrise.ch [193.192.225.89]
   4   <10 ms   <10 ms    10 ms  p3-5.zur01b04.sunrise.ch [195.141.236.13]
   5   100 ms   110 ms   110 ms  p2-1.nyc02b01.sunrise.ch [193.192.225.22]
   6   100 ms   110 ms   110 ms  pos3-0.njy01b01.sunrise.ch 
[193.192.225.226]
   7   191 ms   180 ms   180 ms  p1-0.pal01s01.sunrise.ch [195.141.229.238]
   8     *        *        *     Zeit�berschreitung der Anforderung.
   9     *        *        *     Zeit�berschreitung der Anforderung.
--snap

--snip
bigboy#traceroute 64.4.13.170

Type escape sequence to abort.
Tracing the route to 64.4.13.170

   1 193.192.225.89 [AS 6730] 208 msec 0 msec 212 msec
   2 195.141.236.13 [AS 6730] 4 msec 204 msec 208 msec
   3 193.192.225.22 [AS 6730] 208 msec 204 msec 220 msec
   4 193.192.225.226 [AS 6730] 224 msec 208 msec 220 msec
   5 195.141.229.238 [AS 6730] 212 msec 220 msec 200 msec
   6 198.32.176.77 [AS 6453] 216 msec 312 msec 220 msec
   7 65.54.254.6 [AS 12076] 236 msec 256 msec 292 msec
   8 65.54.254.14 [AS 12076] 380 msec 240 msec 184 msec
   9 64.4.63.117 [AS 12076] 188 msec 208 msec 188 msec
  10  *  *  *
  11  *  *  *
--snap

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Kind regards,
Roman Hochuli
CCNP, CQS Cable

GPS-Technik AG
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