Hi Folks,
Below a good question for IP addresses from KPNQwest. From what concerns CH, i 
identified following blocks:

1.      193.72/15 - Allocated unspecified
2.      194.191/16 - Allocated PA
3.      195.48/16 - Allocated PA
4.      195.49/17 - Allocated PA

Current AS1836 customers are actively migrating to other ISPs. Since this is often an 
emergency process, we (= the concerned ISPs) will originate smalller blocks. We should 
try to keep in touch among us, to try and preserve a consistent routing.
For 1. and 2. -> no problem since /24s are always accepted
For 3 and 4, a block smaller than /20 will get sub-optimal routing -> bad

what about posting on this list every network each ISP will route within these blocks 
? -> We can at the end say for example: ISP A got 70% of 195.49/17 -> ISP A takes over 
the block and only 30% of the customers have to renumber.

We will route the following very soon
- 195.49.3.0/24
- 195.49.118.0/24

Good idea ?
Waiting for feedback
Andr�


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>From: Andre Stiphout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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>Subject: new swamp ?
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>What is the position of the RIPE NCC/RIPE community on the address space
>of a SP that disappears from the net? Is there a clear statement
>somewhere describing that all of the SP PA-space needs to be returned
>within x months to RIPE?
>
>What we and other providers are seeing is that KPNQ customers want to
>retain their PA space if they move over; we would like them to renumber
>(of course :-) and as long as KPNQ as an entity is around we insist on
>it, in the usual timeframe.
>
>But in the case the pullups go, signifying the end of a network, and
>there is no clear RIPE policy behind this, I suspect not many providers
>will care about getting these customers renumbered if these customers
>feel they retain sufficient global connectivity. The net result is an
>increase of the size of the routing table.
>
>Is this detailed in the LIR contract or something and what is the value
>of that contract if the LIR disappears, but the customers find
>connectivity elsewhere?
>
>-- 
>Thanks! Andr[alt-130] Stiphout - Mngr IP Core, Standards & Analysis
>WorldCom - Network Services - Data Technology - AS702
>
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IP+ Engineering 
Swisscom Ltd 
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