> Hi Folks,
> Below a good question for IP addresses from KPNQwest. From what concerns 
> CH, i identified following blocks:
> 
> 1.      193.72/15 - Allocated unspecified
> 2.      194.191/16 - Allocated PA
> 3.      195.48/16 - Allocated PA
> 4.      195.49/17 - Allocated PA

Forgot 146.228.0.0/16 (o;

But that's not for customers anyway (o;

> 
> Current AS1836 customers are actively migrating to other ISPs. Since 
> this is often an emergency process, we (= the concerned ISPs) will 
> originate smalller blocks. We should try to keep in touch among us, to 
> try and preserve a consistent routing.
> For 1. and 2. -> no problem since /24s are always accepted
> For 3 and 4, a block smaller than /20 will get sub-optimal routing -> 
> bad
> 
> what about posting on this list every network each ISP will route within 
> these blocks ? -> We can at the end say for example: ISP A got 70% of 
> 195.49/17 -> ISP A takes over the block and only 30% of the customers 
> have to renumber.
> 
> We will route the following very soon
> - 195.49.3.0/24
> - 195.49.118.0/24
> 
> Good idea ?
> Waiting for feedback
> Andr�
> 
> 
> >X-IPr: 164.128.36.62
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> >Date: Tue, 4 Jun 2002 14:54:38 +0000
> >From: Andre Stiphout <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Subject: new swamp ?
> >User-Agent: Mutt/1.2.5i
> >Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >X-Loop-Detect: RIPE NCC
> >
> >What is the position of the RIPE NCC/RIPE community on the address 
> space
> >of a SP that disappears from the net? Is there a clear statement
> >somewhere describing that all of the SP PA-space needs to be returned
> >within x months to RIPE?
> >
> >What we and other providers are seeing is that KPNQ customers want to
> >retain their PA space if they move over; we would like them to renumber
> >(of course :-) and as long as KPNQ as an entity is around we insist on
> >it, in the usual timeframe.
> >
> >But in the case the pullups go, signifying the end of a network, and
> >there is no clear RIPE policy behind this, I suspect not many providers
> >will care about getting these customers renumbered if these customers
> >feel they retain sufficient global connectivity. The net result is an
> >increase of the size of the routing table.
> >
> >Is this detailed in the LIR contract or something and what is the value
> >of that contract if the LIR disappears, but the customers find
> >connectivity elsewhere?
> >
> >-- 
> >Thanks! Andr[alt-130] Stiphout - Mngr IP Core, Standards & Analysis
> >WorldCom - Network Services - Data Technology - AS702
> >
> >Ultima Ratio Regum - Louis XIV
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> IP+ Engineering 
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