Well, maybe our views are different or I expressed myself bad :-)
Receiving emails with missing SPF record will result in a higher
"SPAM-rating" in our own spam filter system and therefore protecting our
customer against spam.
As far as I know the following results will be passed on from our mail
server: none, pass, error, fail, unknown, softfail, neutral. 
To start with you could just rate "error" as "bad" or "pass" as "good"
but I think that in future anything less then "pass" or "neutral" will
reflect in our "SPAM-rating". It's not a question of "reject" or
"accept" emails from others, but a rating part that will get more and
more important.

The other way round it will protect others from spam comming from our
networks - if they look at our SPF records. Luckily not much to worry
about this most of the time.


Btw: If a customer uses the email address as return-path of another one
on the same server then this is traceble and I would not recommend doing
it. If its just one of our access customer he either has to send through
our mail server or SPF will "fail".

Sorry - the discussion goes quite fast and I might have missed
something...but I done't see where a "hosting-only" provider should have
a specific problem - can you clarify?

Regards
Ralf Zenklusen

Dipl. El-Ing HTL
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Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Auftrag
von Daniel Lorch
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 4. August 2004 15:38
An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Betreff: Re: [swinog] Implementing SPF


Hi

> As soon as this is reached, everybody not using it will be "punished"
with
> bad spam filter results and that's a selling point.

No no no, that's a misconception. I think already Tobias Orlamuende
mentioned 
this question. If the SPF record is missing, you'll simply do nothing.
You're 
not supposed to penalize domains without these records. However, with
SPF 
support you'll get the extra protection for your domain(s) and
implementing 
SPF is a matter of adding a TXT record to your DNS server.

> I don't realy see a need for a script or something else...but maybe
I've
> missed something...

You're also an access provider, we're a hosting-only provider. Different

scenarios :)

-- 
Kind Regards

Daniel Lorch 
Positive Feedback Cycle Engineer

Hostpoint GmbH � � � �| The Data Residence � �|
Z�rcherstrasse 2 � � �| 8640 Rapperswil � � � | Schweiz

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