Hello Andre
Andre Oppermann wrote:
The only information I was able to get was a snippet of the discussion where they were talking about the 'responsibility' of the ISPs regarding SPAM. Doesn't sound good for us I'm afraid. I guess the ISP will be required to 'block' SPAM for customers. If he doesn't the customer can sue the ISP. How fucked up is that???
That's for sure the wrong way. How can an ISP decide if this mail for the customer is spam or not?
The only thing a ISP can do is to provide an (customer tunable) spamfilter. And also most mail clients today can do filtering based on bayesian filters. Each customer gets his personal spam, this can not be 100% filtered at the ISP.
See on [1] what we recommand to our customers (users) to keep there spam level low.
[1] http://nic.phys.ethz.ch/news/1088679595/
Ok, it is a little bit different at our place, the customers are our co-worker of the Deparment of Physics, and emails taged as spam are not deleted but stored on the mailserver. If a user is missing some emails we are able to search.
In an ISP environment it would be the best just to tag the emails and deliver to the customer, and the customer can to the decision what he want to do with his "spam".
On the Cyrus IMAPD I'm running on the non-profit mail and web server (for friends and family [2]) I do the spamfiltering with SpamAssassin with the "report_safe 1" and the default 5.0 points. Sieve can filter mails with "X-Spam-Flag: YES" and can be deliverd to a subfolder and used with IMAP or webmail, or if they prefer pop3 they can to the filtering in there mail client.
At the moment I have implementet SA in the Sendmail Milter with only one global bayesian DB, which is not the best solution but works well with a smaller user base (false positives happen seldom), but will not work in a true ISP environment.
[2] http://www.home4u.ch/
I would never sue my ISP for spam, but probably I would sue him for not deliver emails to me which are addressed to me, even if it is (or looked like) spam. For me this approach goes into censorship, even if it is potentially unwanted spam.
The Swiss Post is also bound to deliver personal to me addressed snail mail, even if it is a "Probexemplar" including a invoice for the K-Tipp I never have ordred.
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