On Thu, 2004-12-02 at 13:11 +0100, Simon Leinen wrote: > Jeroen Massar adds to the unfounded router/switch FUD: > > If you are desperatly still wanting anything from Foundry then > > indeed go for a NetIron, this is what AMS-IX uses. But do note, they > > don't do routing. > > What do you mean "they don't do routing"? I already conceded that Real > Men don't call them a router. If you get over this, it's quite hard > to say they don't route. OK, hopefully the AMS-IX one doesn't route, > because the AMS-IX should be a layer-2 affair.
I should have written: "That AMS-IX an IX and that they use it solely for l2" ;) Thus indeed. > Our old NI400s did OSPF, BGP-4, PIM-SM quite nicely. Took them a > while to implement MP-BGP (for IPv4 Multicast) but eventually they > added that too. The indeed respond quite well to feature requests and bugfixes as can be seen on AMS-IX, which is, imho, quite stable since a couple of months. > > Also review the tech-l list of the last year to see that these boxes > > have stabilized a bit, with a lot of effort from Foundry, over the > > last year. Before that they where not much good ... > > > If you want Routing get a Juniper. > > > Oh and also keep in mind that one day you might want to do IPv6 ;) > > And guess what Foundry doesn't and Cisco does kind-of and Juniper does > > quite well... > > Have you checked out > > http://www.foundrynet.com/products/routers/netiron/ni40g.html?referrer=stupid-simon-still-arguing-with-real-men <grin> I think: http://www.foundrynet.com/products/routers/netiron/ni40g.html? referrer=simon-says-stop-arguing-with-stupid-men is the better url ;) > ? It talks very clearly about hardware forwarding for IPv6 packets. > It even states how many entries the forwarding tables on the line > cards can take (512k IPv4 or 128k IPv6 - the "or" hints at the fact > that they have TCAM-based forwarding, so hopefully they can also > support combinations in-between, like 384k IPv6+32k IPv6 prefixes). Ah, neat, /me learned something. Haven't seen a Foundry doing IPv6 yet though and I guess that is because the Big Iron's don't support it. And as with Big Iron's, first I would like to see some nice performance tests on these boxes in a good lab setup before I would come close to them. The advert above does look nice indeed. Greets, Jeroen
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