As a marsh guy I am having a hard time figuring out how tearing up the
marsh to remove some poles is a good thing. I took students to this area
for many years to work in these beautiful marshes.

On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 3:47 AM, Ed Cummings <[email protected]> wrote:

> Wouldn't mucking about in the marshlands with heavy equipment to rip out
> hundreds of poles and metal antennae cause far more ecological damage than
> just leaving them in place to rot?  Who came up with this dumb idea--a
> government contractor looking for a nice contract?
>
> I wonder if any hams or pirates ever made use of the HF antennae after
> AT&T left.  Quite a ground plane!
>
> Many times I listened to WOO and similar AT&T Long Lines HF stations back
> in the day for entertainment.  What caused that spooky "whale sound"
> artifact?
>
> -Ed Cummings
>
>
>
> At 12:15 PM 11/5/2015, Richard Cuff wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone - See the note below...the US Fish & Wildlife Service is
>> considering some shoreline pole removal for AT&T's WOO shore-to-ship
>> transmitter site in New Jersey; this site was also used for VOA broadcasts
>> from 1944 onward. Public comment is invited; see the link down near the
>> bottom of the message.. Also - we should have an update on the 2016 Fest
>> information within the next week; watch this space! Richard Cuff /
>> Allentown, PA  USA ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Cultural
>> Resources, FW5 <[email protected]> Date: Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 3:12 PM
>> Subject: Public comments sought for anticipated adverse effect on historic
>> properties To: [email protected] Dear North American Shortwave
>> Association: The U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service proposes a pole removal
>> project in the tidal marshlands of the Good Luck Point (Ocean Gate) and
>> Manahawkin units of Edwin B. Forsythe National Wildlife Refuge in Ocean
>> County, New Jersey. The undertaking will contribute to saltmarsh
>> enhancement funded by the Disaster Relief Appropriations Act of 2013. The
>> proposal is for hundreds of poles to be removed, in addition to cables,
>> wires, metal towers, and concrete blocks. The goal of this action is to
>> enhance coastal marsh habitats by increasing marsh resiliency from impacts
>> of large storm events and other ecosystem stressors. The poles are part of
>> inactive shortwave antenna fields associated with AT&T’s ship-to-shore
>> shortwave communications system, which was in operation at the sites from
>> the early 1930s until 1999. The wires connecting the antenna poles were
>> removed by AT&T prior to the creation of the National Wildlife Refuge
>> units. Good Luck Point in Berkeley Township, Ocean County includes a
>> shortwave transmitter building and antenna field. The municipality owns the
>> shuttered building, while the poles of the inactive antenna field are on
>> Refuge land. Under the call sign WOO, the shortwave facility at Good Luck
>> Point (known as Ocean Gate) was a renowned transmitting station, which
>> helped broadcast Voice of America around the globe after 1944 and enabled
>> communication with ships at sea throughout the twentieth century. The
>> historic property is eligible for listing in the National Register of
>> Historic Places. The proposed project will remove approximately 340 wooden
>> poles from the inactive antenna field, along with several metal antennae..
>> Manahawkin in Stafford Township, Ocean County includes the WOO companion
>> site, which consists of a shortwave receiving station and antenna field.
>> Via Manahawkin, shortwave communications from ships at sea were linked to
>> America’s telephone network from the 1930s until 1999.  The entire Refuge
>> unit is within a conservation easement to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife
>> Service, which does not own the building.  The historic property is
>> eligible for listing in the National Register of Historic Places. The
>> proposed project will remove approximately 113 wooden poles from the
>> antenna field.  Several metal antennas will be removed, as well. Because
>> both of the historic properties represent well-preserved examples of
>> nationally significant shortwave facilities, they have been determined
>> eligible for National Register listing. Consequently, the proposed removal
>> of poles from the antenna fields will cause an adverse effect under Section
>> 106 of the National Historic Preservation Act. A mitigation program is
>> being developed in consultation with the New Jersey State Historic
>> Preservation Office. In accordance with Section 106 of the National
>> Historic Preservation Act, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service seeks public
>> comment on the anticipated adverse effect. The public is invited to submit
>> comments concerning the project’s effects on the historic properties to
>> [email protected] . The public comment period ends on November 15,
>> 2015. Additional information is available via this Web link:
>> http://www.fws.gov/refuge/edwin_b_forsythe/ Thank you for your interest.
>> -- U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service Cultural Resources Program Division of
>> Refuge Field Support Northeast Regional Office 300 Westgate Center Drive
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