We have to destroy the marsh to save it. Sent from my iPhone
> On Nov 8, 2015, at 5:40 PM, Harold Cones <[email protected]> wrote: > > As a marsh guy I am having a hard time figuring out how tearing up the marsh > to remove some poles is a good thing. I took students to this area for many > years to work in these beautiful marshes. > >> On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 3:47 AM, Ed Cummings <[email protected]> wrote: >> Wouldn't mucking about in the marshlands with heavy equipment to rip out >> hundreds of poles and metal antennae cause far more ecological damage than >> just leaving them in place to rot? Who came up with this dumb idea--a >> government contractor looking for a nice contract? >> >> I wonder if any hams or pirates ever made use of the HF antennae after AT&T >> left. Quite a ground plane! >> >> Many times I listened to WOO and similar AT&T Long Lines HF stations back in >> the day for entertainment. What caused that spooky "whale sound" artifact? >> >> -Ed Cummings >> >> >> >> At 12:15 PM 11/5/2015, Richard Cuff wrote: >>> Hi everyone - See the note below...the US Fish & Wildlife Service is >>> considering some shoreline pole removal for AT&T's WOO shore-to-ship >>> transmitter site in New Jersey; this site was also used for VOA broadcasts >>> from 1944 onward. Public comment is invited; see the link down near the >>> bottom of the message.. Also - we should have an update on the 2016 Fest >>> information within the next week; watch this space! Richard Cuff / >>> Allentown, PA USA ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Cultural >>> Resources, FW5 <[email protected]> Date: Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 3:12 PM >>> Subject: Public comments sought for anticipated adverse effect on historic >>> properties To: [email protected] Dear North American Shortwave Association: >>> The U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service proposes a pole removal project in the >>> tidal marshlands of the Good Luck Point (Ocean Gate) and Manahawkin units >>> of Edwin B. Forsythe National Wildlife Refuge in Ocean County, New Jersey. >>> The undertaking will contribute to saltmarsh enhancement funded by the >>> Disaster Relief Appropriations Act of 2013. The proposal is for hundreds of >>> poles to be removed, in addition to cables, wires, metal towers, and >>> concrete blocks. The goal of this action is to enhance coastal marsh >>> habitats by increasing marsh resiliency from impacts of large storm events >>> and other ecosystem stressors. The poles are part of inactive shortwave >>> antenna fields associated with AT&T’s ship-to-shore shortwave >>> communications system, which was in operation at the sites from the early >>> 1930s until 1999. The wires connecting the antenna poles were removed by >>> AT&T prior to the creation of the National Wildlife Refuge units. Good Luck >>> Point in Berkeley Township, Ocean County includes a shortwave transmitter >>> building and antenna field. The municipality owns the shuttered building, >>> while the poles of the inactive antenna field are on Refuge land. Under the >>> call sign WOO, the shortwave facility at Good Luck Point (known as Ocean >>> Gate) was a renowned transmitting station, which helped broadcast Voice of >>> America around the globe after 1944 and enabled communication with ships at >>> sea throughout the twentieth century. The historic property is eligible for >>> listing in the National Register of Historic Places. The proposed project >>> will remove approximately 340 wooden poles from the inactive antenna field, >>> along with several metal antennae. Manahawkin in Stafford Township, Ocean >>> County includes the WOO companion site, which consists of a shortwave >>> receiving station and antenna field. Via Manahawkin, shortwave >>> communications from ships at sea were linked to America’s telephone >>> network from the 1930s until 1999. The entire Refuge unit is within a >>> conservation easement to the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, which does not >>> own the building. The historic property is eligible for listing in the >>> National Register of Historic Places. The proposed project will remove >>> approximately 113 wooden poles from the antenna field. Several metal >>> antennas will be removed, as well. Because both of the historic properties >>> represent well-preserved examples of nationally significant shortwave >>> facilities, they have been determined eligible for National Register >>> listing. Consequently, the proposed removal of poles from the antenna >>> fields will cause an adverse effect under Section 106 of the National >>> Historic Preservation Act. A mitigation program is being developed in >>> consultation with the New Jersey State Historic Preservation Office. In >>> accordance with Section 106 of the National Historic Preservation Act, the >>> U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service seeks public comment on the anticipated >>> adverse effect. The public is invited to submit comments concerning the >>> project’s effects on the historic properties to [email protected] . The >>> public comment period ends on November 15, 2015. Additional information is >>> available via this Web link: http://www.fws.gov/refuge/edwin_b_forsythe/ >>> Thank you for your interest. -- U.S. Fish & Wildlife Service Cultural >>> Resources Program Division of Refuge Field Support Northeast Regional >>> Office 300 Westgate Center Drive Hadley, MA 01035-9589 >>> _______________________________________________ Swlfest mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://montreal.kotalampi.com/mailman/listinfo/swlfest To unsubscribe: >>> Send an E-mail to [email protected]?subject=unsubscribe, or >>> visit the URL shown above. 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