Nic,
There are currently 2 primary ways frontends have implemented
strongs/morph functionality:
1) show the numbers in the text as clickable links;
2) have the word itself be a clickable link which has both
strongs/morph/other data attached.
These 2 methods usually dictate, at a lower level, 2 different methods:
1) have the lookup information embedded directly in the link, e.g.,
action=showMorph&type=Greek&value=5589
2) have the word id embedded in the link, and then do an entry
attributes lookup to obtain the relevant information, e.g.,
<span onclick="showWordData(1)">In</span>
To see the data you can obtain from entry attributes once you have the
word id, have a look at sword/examples/cmdline/lookup, e.g.,
./lookup KJV jn.1.1
Basically, what it comes down to is WHERE you want the work to happen.
All of this information comes out of entry attributes at some point:
either the filter obtains it and puts it in the link, or your app
obtains it and does what it sees fit with it.
You can see code which implement the lemma/morph/interlinear lookups in
a filter, located under sword/bindings/corba/orbitcpp/webmgr.hpp. This
Word Javascript filter set does the lookup from entry attributes and
adds a tag around words with linguistic markup. Here is the pertinent
line of code from the filter:
text.appendFormatted("<span class=\"clk\"
onclick=\"p('%s','%s','%s','%s','%s','%s');\" >", lexName.c_str(),
lemma.c_str(), wordID.c_str(), morph.c_str(), page.c_str(),
modName.c_str());
This is how swordweb does word-click lookups and shows strongs, morph,
interlinear data, etc. (page, is the image page number for the Tregelles
GNT scans).
I know this doesn't answer all of your questions, but hope it gets you
started.
Troy.
Nic Carter wrote:
Hi team :)
I'm currently implementing morphology tags at the same time as Strong's in
PocketSword & I have a question about the HTML filters.
for THML (thmlhtmlhref.cpp)
we have "passagestudy.jsp?action=showMorph&type=Greek&value=%s" (line
178)
so, the "type" is hardcoded to "Greek".
for GBF (gbfhtmlhref.cpp)
we have "passagestudy.jsp?action=showMorph&type=Greek&value=" (line 207)
so, the "type" is hardcoded to "Greek".
for OSIS (the one we're mostly interested in now-a-days: osishtmlhref.cpp)
we have "passagestudy.jsp?action=showMorph&type=%s&value=%s" (line 150)
so, the "type" is variable, with an example from the KJV being:
"passagestudy.jsp?action=showMorph&type=robinson%3AN-ASN&value=N-ASN"
[note: %3A is the URL encoding of the ":" character, as this is coming from the OSIS w tag, where
morph="robinson:N-ASN" is found, so we are simply passing through the "morph" attribute to the
"type" attribute in this html link, after running it through URL::encode().]
http://www.crosswire.org/wiki/OSIS_Bibles#Marking_with_Morphology is also a
good place to read up on this, from an OSIS point of view.
http://n4.nabble.com/new-morphology-td354696.html#a354696 has a previous thread
about Morphology tags
http://n4.nabble.com/KJV-OT-morphology-td351093.html#a351093 mentions OT Morph tags
& how they were broken back then (are they still? if the situation is still the
same today, then that may help answer question #1 & some of #2!)
http://n4.nabble.com/Fwd-GnomeSword-developers-Hebrew-WLC-Text-with-Strongs-numbers-and-Morphology-td358831.html#a358831
mentions that there was no Hebrew Morphological Analysis Codes module as of
March 2009, is that still the case? (that may also help answer question #1?)
Given all of the above:
1) do we only support Morphology of Greek words? Looking in the KJV (OSIS), it seems they appear in the OT (hence, also for
Hebrew words), and the "type" attribute is "strongMorph". For example,
"passagestudy.jsp?action=showMorph&type=strongMorph%3ATH8804&value=TH8804" from Micah 1:16 (from the word
"captivity", with the Strong's Hebrew Number of 01540).
2) should the OSIS version, above, have the "type" attribute actually being "robinson" (in the KJV example above) rather
than "robinson%3AN-ASN"? or should it instead be hard-coded to be "Greek" like with the THML & GBF versions? I'm
assuming it should be "robinson", given that's what the OSIS module says... so I'm guessing that the "strongMorph", found
in question #1 is actually referring to a non-public (or non-existing?) module that has the Hebrew Morphology.
3) do other front-ends simply assume that we only call the "showMorph" action on Greek words & hence ignore the "type" attribute? Or do they (as I am currently
thinking of doing) treat "Greek" to use a module with "Feature=GreekParse" & showMorph actions that start with "robinson" or "packard" to also be
Greek & anything else to be Hebrew? Or do they treat "Greek" as Greek & anything else they parse the "type" attribute until they get to the ":" &
then try to use that module, falling back to an error dialogue if that module isn't installed?
4) I am assuming that any module with "Feature=GreekParse" in it is able to handle Greek Morphology codes, so when we encounter a
"showMorph" with a "type" containing "robinson", do we NEED to use the "robinson" module (which is the
technically correct thing to do) or can I allow the user to select any module they have installed which has the "GreekParse" feature in it
(the same as we do with Strong's Numbers)? But, then, linking with question #1, there is no equivalent for "Feature=HebrewParse"? at
least, I can't find any modules from the CrossWire or CrossWire Beta repos with that in it?
ok, I think that's about it! I enjoy trying to figure out fun SWORD things (well, now
I do -- at first it was overwhelming, but I was learning the SWORD APIs & the
CocoaTouch APIs & Obj-C all at the same time!), but I'd love clarification on this
before I code it :)
Thanks heaps for even reading this far. If you have read this far and can actually
understand it all, you deserve a medal & you're probably also equipped enough
to answer all my questions! ;) :)
ybic
nic... :)
----
Nic Carter
PocketSword Developer - an iPhone Bible Study app
http://crosswire.org/pocketsword
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