On 11/28/2010 3:05 AM, Jonathan Morgan wrote:
Hi David,

See http://www.ccel.org/about/copyright.html. CCEL are not claiming copyright on the text (which is public domain). What they are claiming copyright on is the XML markup (references, sections, ...). This XML markup is the version we would use in any of our modules. While this kind of copyright claim is dubious, it is not in the same league as claiming the actual original text is copyrighted.

Dubious is right, very dubious. But, assuming that they believe it is valid I would expect they also consider the conversion of that markup into other types of markup (derivative work) as a violation of their rights. This is very unfortunate but seems to be the way things go in this world. Which makes much of the work at Crosswire and the SWORD Project so much more a blessing.

CCEL says any web site must have a license agreement to post any of the non-text versions. But CCEL may be open to a license agreement, "They may be used for non-profit personal, educational, and church purposes involving fewer than 25 copies of a book without further permission," for any versions of their non-text works "derived" by the SWORD Project. One would have to check into it, assuming one was willing to support the dubious claim.

Jerry


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