Mirror management is a moot issue if the software doesn't support mirrors. I
have no plans to add such to JSword, unless it is added to SWORD first. I
highly doubt that it will be added to SWORD until a problem with resiliency
creates a real need. Even then, I'm not sure that that will be used as a
solution.
In His Service,
DM
On Jan 7, 2013, at 12:39 PM, Andrew Thule <thules...@gmail.com> wrote:
> DM, I agree that not having thought through mirror management procedurally
> (policy and best backpractice) is reason enough to hold off on such a
> venture, but those problems are typically trivial to solve given effective
> communication.
>
> Since technology is subordinat to intent, what needs to be worked out to move
> forward along these lines is the clarification of intent.
>
> If I were to look back on this recent discussion, I'd suggest a number of
> principles are already clear:
> -CrossWire resevers the right to approve or deny mirrors
> -CrossWire reserves the right to define which repositorories are considered
> "root" repositories (so authoritive)
> -Distribution of modules exclusively licensed to CrossWire should be retained
> by Crosswire
> -All Mirrors should take no longer than x (period of time) to accurately
> reflect 'root repositories'
>
> Etc.
> This issues have already (to some extent) been hashed through in debate,
> however discussion on the matter was limited, unproductive and unclear simply
> because of the degree of hostility the 'idea' of mirrors alone produced.
>
> If there had been an attitude of 'open but undecided' reservation about the
> matter, rather than outright 'hostility' its likely the issues you are
> raising now could have been dealt with more readily.
>
> ~A
>
>
> On Sun, Jan 6, 2013 at 2:17 PM, DM Smith <dmsm...@crosswire.org> wrote:
> A few more reasons we discourage mirroring:
> SWORD and JSword have no means for managing mirrors. They expect each
> repository to be a unique collection of modules.
>
> A mirror that is partial, not containing all that is in the master
> repository, probably will be confusing to users.
>
> A mirror that is hosted along with questionable modules probably will give
> the appearance that CrossWire condones those modules. Especially when the
> modules are in the same repository.
>
> In Him,
> DM
>
> On Jan 4, 2013, at 9:09 AM, DM Smith <dmsm...@crosswire.org> wrote:
>
>> From time to time, interest has been expressed in mirroring CrossWire's
>> SWORD modules. I thought I'd reiterate our policy.
>>
>> We strongly, very strongly, discourage mirroring of the SWORD module
>> repository.
>>
>> Those modules for which CrossWire has obtained distribution permission from
>> copyright holders must not be mirrored. These have
>> "DistributionLicense=Copyrighted; Permission to distribute granted to
>> CrossWire" in their conf. CrossWire maintains correspondence for each of
>> these modules.
>>
>> Mirrors are seldom current/correct, despite intentions.
>>
>> On occasion we have unintentionally hosted modules for which we did not have
>> permission. When presented with an ownership claim, we typically will take
>> the module offline immediately and validate the claim. If the claim is
>> false, we will put the module back up. If the claim is true, we obtain
>> permission before putting the module back online or we don't put it back.
>> This is an important part of our stewardship.
>>
>> If or when CrossWire has problems with distribution, we'll tackle the
>> problem at that time. Probably with a "Content Delivery Network" of
>> CrossWire owned servers.
>>
>> This or some variation of this probably should be in the wiki.
>>
>> In His Service,
>> DM
>>
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