When I view a witness (jpeg image of a manuscript) in Android, is there a
way to zoom?  I haven't found any method to zoom the image to a viewable
size. (i'm on 1.0.4, but I haven't spent time with that... this dates to
testing with 1.0.2 )

On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 4:14 PM, Troy A. Griffitts <scr...@crosswire.org>
wrote:

> So, for those of you who have tried Bishop and also had modules installed
> previously by another SWORD app like AndBible, you weren't offered the
> dialog prompting you to install a basic set of modules (you already had
> modules installed, so Bishop assumed you had what you wanted).
>
> This means though that you might not have modules that some of the
> features of Bishop need to operate. The basically module set consists of
> KJV, WLC, WHNU, StrongsGreek, and StrongsHebrew. The latter two are needed
> for the Word Study feature, along with a Strongs lemma Bible as the active
> primary Bible module (first of the three selected active modules).
>
> None of this is obvious and is just setup correctly for the user on first
> run if they don't have any modules yet installed.
>
> For those of you who already had modules installed before installing
> Bishop, I'd like to maybe add some kind of warning when a feature is
> selected and all the cards aren't in place to operate. I suppose before
> adding those warnings, maybe we should extend the functionality to allow
> selection of, e.g., word study module, Greek def module, Hebrew def module,
> so these things aren't just hardcoded magic. 90% of all users are probably
> happy not knowing about these details, but since we've now added a
> [Settings] panel to support the font size adjustment, we could add other
> configuration options there.
>
> Just thinking out loud if anyone has any feedback or wants to help.
>
> Troy
>
> On March 12, 2018 2:38:22 AM MST, Chris Umphress <umphr...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Hey Troy,
>>
>> I had the same experience as Gary. None of the installed modules (from 
>> AndBible) were automatically selected, but they are available. The grey 
>> section at the top of the sidebar said “Undefined” until I started to 
>> navigate inside of the modules.
>>
>> The interface could use a handful of tweaks for word placement on buttons 
>> and such, but everything seems to be working. I love the Witness Study 
>> feature.
>>
>> Thanks for your work on this,
>>
>> Chris Umphress
>>
>>  On Mar 12, 2018, at 04:05, Gary Holmlund <gary.holml...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Troy,
>>>
>>>  I just tried version 1.05 and it started up with no text. I selected 1, 2, 
>>> and 3 bibles and all was working.
>>>
>>>  Gary
>>>
>>>
>>>  On 03/11/2018 07:05 PM, Troy A. Griffitts wrote:
>>>
>>>>  New Bishop is available.
>>>>
>>>>  I believe I've added the Apple UDIDs for everyone who sent them.  I
>>>>  haven't looked into TestFlight yet, but thank you for the suggestion.
>>>>
>>>>  Michael, I believe I've added a "No data to display." message when none
>>>>  of the 3 active modules selected have data for the verse chosen.
>>>>
>>>>  Gary, thanks again for the log.  After installing ABSMaps and running
>>>>  Bishop for the first time, I see that this module is incorrectly chosen
>>>>  as a default Bible (it was alphabetically first and my iteration to find
>>>>  the first Bible wasn't exactly correctly).  Please try again and let me
>>>>  know if things work for you now.  Since it has been set as your default
>>>>  Bible now, it will probably still not choose a Bible, but you can select
>>>>  your 3 active Bibles from the menu.  If you uninstall and reinstall,
>>>>  Bishop should now correctly skip over ABSMaps when setting a default
>>>>  Bible on first run.
>>>>
>>>>  Chris, thank you for the logs with the crash report.  I believe this bug
>>>>  is fixed for you now too.
>>>>
>>>>  Besides bug fixes, this version includes native image viewing support
>>>>  for manuscript folios.
>>>>
>>>>  Let me know if you have a chance to try 1.0.4 and your experiences.
>>>>
>>>>  Thanks for all the great feedback and 5-star ratings!
>>>>
>>>>  Troy
>>>>
>>>>  https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.crosswire.bishop
>>>>
>>>>  https://crosswire.org/bishop/manifest.plist
>>>>
>>>>  https://crosswire.org/bishop.ipa
>>>>
>>>>  https://crosswire.org/bishop.apk
>>>>
>>>>  http://git.crosswire.org/main/bishop
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  On 03/05/2018 03:15 AM, David Haslam wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>  In response to Manfred.
>>>>>
>>>>>  TestFlight is part of Apple's infrastructure for testing beta versions 
>>>>> of iOS apps before release.
>>>>>
>>>>>  I've used it in the past to install PocketSword when Nic Carter has been 
>>>>> working on a beta version.
>>>>>
>>>>>  AFAIK, it still downloads from Apple, rather than direct from the 
>>>>> developer. Correct me if I'm wrong.
>>>>>
>>>>>  NB. All new/updated iOS apps must support 64-bit and iOS 11 to be 
>>>>> accepted by Apple.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  ​Best regards,
>>>>>
>>>>>  David
>>>>>
>>>>>  Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email.​
>>>>>
>>>>>  ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>>>>>
>>>>>  On 4 March 2018 4:14 PM, Manfred Bergmann <manfred.bergm...@me.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>  TestFlight not an option to make it installable for testers?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Manfred
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  Am 04.03.2018 um 16:36 schrieb DM Smith dmsm...@crosswire.org:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  David,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  I’ve installed it on my iPhone 6. Will do my iPad 2 later today.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  I don’t think the iOS app store supports 32-bit only any more, but 
>>>>>>> they might allow dual 32/64. I have an old iPhone 5 on which I can 
>>>>>>> test. I don’t have a 32-bit iPad like yours.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  It’s not something you’ll be willing to do. I’m describing the process 
>>>>>>> that I went through in case others are interested.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  To install it, you need to be running MacOS. This is possible to do in 
>>>>>>> a VM on Windows or Linux. I think that’s what Troy does. I have a Mac, 
>>>>>>> so it isn’t a difficulty for me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Within MacOS you have to install XCode from the Mac App Store and in 
>>>>>>> XCode open Window->Devices and Simulators with your iOS device attached 
>>>>>>> to your “Mac". Make the window wide enough to see the entire device 
>>>>>>> “Identifier”. Right click on that, select copy and send that to Troy.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Troy will have to add that to the list of authorized devices and 
>>>>>>> rebuild Bishop.ipa.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Download that ipa and in the same window, click + under INSTALLED 
>>>>>>> APPS, navigate to that download and “Open” it. This will install it to 
>>>>>>> your device.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  Later, I think it’ll be possible to build from source in XCode.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  DM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  On Mar 4, 2018, at 3:26 AM, David Haslam dfh...@protonmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Hi Troy,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  I've been ignoring Bishop on the grounds that I'd only ever seen it 
>>>>>>>> described as being an Android OS app.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  This is the first time I've seen it mentioned in connection with iOS 
>>>>>>>> devices.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  My devices are iPhone 5 and iPad Mini. My wife has an iPhone 5S and 
>>>>>>>> iPad Mini.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Even so, unless it's in the Apple iStore, only users who jailbreak 
>>>>>>>> could install it? AFAICT, it's not there.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  btw. Is it a 64-bit app ?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Best regards,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  David
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Sent from ProtonMail Mobile
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  On Sat, Mar 3, 2018 at 21:53, Troy A. Griffitts scr...@crosswire.org 
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>  Thanks for the feedback Michael,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  I have added a new menu choice:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  \[ Settings \]
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  -   Font Size +
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  It seems to work well on both iOS and Android. Please let me know if 
>>>>>>>>> it makes the app more usable for you. The update should now be 
>>>>>>>>> available for your phone.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Thank you again for taking the time to provide valuable feedback.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  Troy
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  On 03/03/2018 04:05 AM, Michael H wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  I already had AndBible installed.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Bishop installed and recognized all the modules (at least 20+ 
>>>>>>>>>> bibles, i haven't confirmed "ALL") that AndBible has present. I 
>>>>>>>>>> haven't attempted any more module installs after installing Bishop, 
>>>>>>>>>> either from AndBible or Bishop.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  The text is small on my Samsung Galaxy On5. Not horribly unreadably 
>>>>>>>>>> small, but small for me to use for any length of time. I don't see 
>>>>>>>>>> settings to adjust that, so I haven't spent much time on it. I can 
>>>>>>>>>> and will test more if you have something specific.. But this isn't 
>>>>>>>>>> ready for my eyes yet. Very promising tho. :-) Based on the images 
>>>>>>>>>> in the store screen, I would be using it more if the text had size 
>>>>>>>>>> adjustment.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 11:05 PM, Troy A. Griffitts 
>>>>>>>>>> scr...@crosswire.org wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  I've had 2 instances of problems running the app. One was a report 
>>>>>>>>>> from a user here, and another was trying to install the app on my 
>>>>>>>>>> TV. In both cases, the app showed a blank gray screen after install 
>>>>>>>>>> and and startup.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  I have had debug versions on all my devices here at some point, so 
>>>>>>>>>> I'm not a very good clean test case. Has anyone had any luck 
>>>>>>>>>> installing and getting the basic set of modules running? Or any 
>>>>>>>>>> problems? Thanks for any feedback.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.crosswire.bishop
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Troy
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  On 03/02/2018 01:31 PM, David Haslam wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>  Suggestion:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  Please edit https://wiki.crosswire.org/Frontends:Bishop
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  and add these details.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  David
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  Sent with ProtonMail Secure Email.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  On 1 March 2018 2:26 AM, Troy A. Griffitts scr...@crosswire.org 
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>  Dear team,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  You all know we've been working on Cordova bindings for SWORD for 
>>>>>>>>>>>> quite some time now. We now have a simple reader written in 
>>>>>>>>>>>> JavaScript which will run unchanged on both Android and iOS.Bishop 
>>>>>>>>>>>> includes an InstallMgr to auto-discover remote installation 
>>>>>>>>>>>> sources and let a user install SWORD content.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  I've kept the development code name "Bishop", my favorite android 
>>>>>>>>>>>> (from Aliens) and almost appropriate for a Bible app :) I've also 
>>>>>>>>>>>> tacked on our boring moniker from our Windows app, "Bishop: The 
>>>>>>>>>>>> SWORD Project for Android". Long name but should get more search 
>>>>>>>>>>>> hits.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  Basically, Bishop's UI has 2 basic modes:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  Reader: which simply shows 1 chapter of up to 3 Bibles in 
>>>>>>>>>>>> parallel.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  Verse Study: When in reader mode, as the user scrolls, one verse 
>>>>>>>>>>>> will always be active, when "Verse Study" is chosen from the menu, 
>>>>>>>>>>>> the user can then drill down into that active verse. Verse Study 
>>>>>>>>>>>> has 4 tools:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  Word Study: shows the verse broken down word by word, showing the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> original Greek or Hebrew behind each word, along with a simple 
>>>>>>>>>>>> definition.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  Commentary: shows all installed commentary for that verse.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  Witness Study: shows all available ancient New Testament 
>>>>>>>>>>>> manuscript witnesses which attest to the current verse.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  Variant Study: shows all variant between the manuscript witnesses 
>>>>>>>>>>>> for the current verse.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  Other features include very basic bookmarks and search. The 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Android release has an initial attempt at BibleSync support to 
>>>>>>>>>>>> send your current verse out to all your friends running Bishop on 
>>>>>>>>>>>> the same network (thanks Karl!).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  The initial goal of Bishop was to be the thinnest client on top 
>>>>>>>>>>>> of the bindings, as an example and thus uses no 3rd party 
>>>>>>>>>>>> libraries, save jQuery. Now that the initial release is completed 
>>>>>>>>>>>> and can serve as an example, we're free to improve the mobile user 
>>>>>>>>>>>> interface if anyone feels called to join the team and give it a 
>>>>>>>>>>>> shot.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  Installation locations follow. It's best to let Bishop install 
>>>>>>>>>>>> its basic set of SWORD modules upon first run, so it has a minimal 
>>>>>>>>>>>> set of tools it can use to operate. It will prompt you to do this 
>>>>>>>>>>>> when you first launch the application and it finds no modules 
>>>>>>>>>>>> installed.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  Android users can install the app from:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.crosswire.bishop
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  iPhone users will need to send me their UDID for testing while we 
>>>>>>>>>>>> try to get through the Apple Store approval process. I haven't 
>>>>>>>>>>>> even tried yet as I don't have much hope that it is "pretty" 
>>>>>>>>>>>> enough for them, but the download link for the iPhone binary is 
>>>>>>>>>>>> here:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  https://crosswire.org/bishop/manifest.plist
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  https://crosswire.org/bishop.ipa
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  The code can be had from:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  http://git.crosswire.org/main/bishop
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  Please let us know what you think if you are a user, and offer 
>>>>>>>>>>>> your suggestions from a usability perspective.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  If you are a developer, please offer comments and suggest 
>>>>>>>>>>>> features you have a desire and are willing to add.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  Please give us a great rating so we show up in a search in the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Play Store and let others know. I think we have some unique 
>>>>>>>>>>>> feature that other app don't offer and I've been using Bishop as 
>>>>>>>>>>>> my morning reader for a while now. The default fullscreen text 
>>>>>>>>>>>> without clutter is pleasant.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  Christ's best for you!
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>  Troy
>>>>>>>>>>>>
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