Hi David

Thanks for your response. It was very insightful. Just one note:

On 5 Dec 2006, at 19:04, David Zülke wrote:
>
>>
>> Has anyone had issues like this before, or can someone point to some
>> resource i can show my clients, or anything that will help me bring
>> this damn issue to an end.
>>
>> I think that as symfony bundles these projects by default, it should
>> explain this more clearly, as initially i thought the entire
>> framework was MIT, including third party libs, but obviously that is
>> not the case as Propel and Creole are LGPL. This should be made
>> clearer IMHO. Also if the plugin policy is MIT only, then technically
>> Propel could never be an official plugin, ouch!!!
>
> Yes, I wish that would be made clearer. In fact, I get the impression
> that many users believe Propel and Creole are symfony sub-projects,
> since nowhere does it clearly state the origin of Propel and Creole -
> which is just one of many of symfony's unfortunate license violations
> :(

Could you please be more precise here, so that we can correct this.  
Or even better let us know how we can correct this.

>
>> I think Propel were considering releasing 2.0 as MIT, and i asked the
>> project lead for Doctrine if they would release as MIT, but not too
>> sure they liked the idea as it lacks protection. Having had this
>> conversation with my client, it has become a bit of an issue for me,
>> and i think that as symfony is becoming a player in the framework
>> arena it may be able to request that these libraries be released
>> under MIT for official integration with 1.0, but that maybe pushing
>> our luck and not possible.
>
> That's not going to happen in case of Propel and Creole, sorry.

That's a shame, but totally understandable.

>
>
> Cheers,
>
> David
>
>
> >


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