Thanks Fabien

Thats a great help

Regards

Joe

On 7 Dec 2006, at 08:17, Fabien POTENCIER wrote:

>
> To follow up the discussion about licenses, I've just committed a new
> COPYRIGHT file:
>
> http://www.symfony-project.com/trac/browser/trunk/COPYRIGHT
>
> This file contains all copyright information about symfony and the
> bundled externals software symfony relies on.
>
> This file also links to the license files found directly under the
> trunk/ directory in the subversion repository.
>
> As of now, the license files are:
>
> LICENSE
> LICENSE.Creole
> LICENSE.ICU
> LICENSE.PHPMailer
> LICENSE.Propel
> LICENSE.lime
> LICENSE.pake
> LICENSE.phing
> LICENSE.prado
> LICENSE.prototype
> LICENSE.script.aculo.us
>
> I also added these files to the PEAR package.
>
> Here is the current COPYRIGHT file content:
>
> COPYRIGHTS
> ==========
>
> symfony
> -------
>
> symfony is originally based on Mojavi3 by Sean Kerr
>
> Url:       http://www.symfony-project.com/
> Copyright: Fabien Potencier
> License:   MIT - LICENSE
>
> Propel
> ------
>
> symfony contains the Propel software
>
> Url:       http://propel.phpdb.org/
> Copyright: Authors
> License:   LGPL - LICENSE.Propel
>
> Creole
> ------
>
> symfony contains the Creole software
>
> Url:       http://creole.phpdb.org/
> Copyright: Authors
> License:   LGPL - LICENSE.Creole
>
> International Components for Unicode
> ------------------------------------
>
> symfony contains a port of parts of the International Components for
> Unicode library
>
> Url:       http://www.ibm.com/software/globalization/icu/,
> http://icu.sourceforge.net/
> Copyright: 1995-2006 International Business Machines Corporation  
> and others.
> License:   ICU License - LICENSE.ICU
>
> Dynarch calendar
> ----------------
>
> symfony contains the dynarch calendar software
>
> Url:       http://www.dynarch.com/projects/calendar/
> Copyright: Mihai Bazon, 2002-2005
> License:   LGPL - http://www.gnu.org/licenses/lgpl.html
>
> Prototype
> ---------
>
> symfony contains the Prototype software
>
> Url:       http://prototype.conio.net/
> Copyright: 2005 Sam Stephenson
> License:   MIT - LICENSE.prototype
>
> script.aculo.us
> ---------------
>
> symfony contains the script.aculo.us software
>
> Url:       http://script.aculo.us, http://mir.aculo.us
> Copyright: 2005, 2006 Thomas Fuchs
> License:   MIT - LICENSE.script.aculo.us
>
> famfamfam icons
> ---------------
>
> symfony contains a subset of the silk famfamfam icons
>
> Url:       http://www.famfamfam.com/lab/icons/silk/
> License:   http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/2.5/
>
> Prado i18n classes
> ------------------
>
> symfony contains the Prado i18n core classes
>
> Url:       http://www.pradosoft.com/
> Copyright: 2004-2006, The PRADO Group
> License:   BSD - LICENSE.prado
>
> PHPMailer
> ---------
>
> symfony contains the PHPMailer software
>
> Url:       http://phpmailer.sourceforge.net/
> Copyright: Chris Ryan
> License:   LGPL - LICENSE.PHPMailer
>
> Spyc
> ----
>
> symfony contains the Spyc software
>
> Url:       http://spyc.sourceforge.net/
> Copyright: 2005-2006 Chris Wanstrath
> License:   MIT - http://www.opensource.org/licenses/mit-license.php
>
> pake
> ----
>
> symfony uses the pake software
>
> Url:       http://www.symfony-project.com/
> Copyright: Fabien Potencier
> License:   MIT - LICENSE.pake
>
> lime
> ----
>
> symfony uses the lime software
>
> Url:       http://www.symfony-project.com/
> Copyright: Fabien Potencier
> License:   MIT - LICENSE.lime
>
> Phing
> -----
>
> symfony uses the Phing software
>
> Url:       http://phing.info/
> Copyright: Authors
> License:   LGPL - LICENSE.phing
>
> If you think something is missing or wrong, please contact me  
> directly.
>
> Fabien
>
> David Zülke wrote:
>> On 12/5/06, Fabien POTENCIER <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>> project.com> wrote:
>>> Concerning bundled projects, I really don't know why you have the
>>> impression that Propel and Creole are sub-projects of symfony.
>>
>> I don't have that impression, of course ;) I just noticed that a lof
>> of people don't realize that Creole and Propel are separate  
>> projects -
>> from the IRC channel, tickets on symfony trac or the emails that
>> arrive on the Propel lists.
>>
>>
>>> Here are some examples on the symfony website:
>>>
>>> There is a "credits" page (available from every web page) with  
>>> links to
>>> both Creole and Propel:
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>> Propel and Creole and bundled under the vendor/ symfony  
>>> directory. All
>>> PHP files have their license headers with the license.
>>
>> The thing is that the LICENSE file in the root directory only  
>> contains
>> information about symfony being public domain, without any indication
>> at all that other libraries with non-MIT licenses are bundled.  
>> Also, a
>> COPYRIGHT file is missing, too (after all, each individual  
>> contributor
>> has his or her copyright on the respective code part, it's not all  
>> (c)
>> Fabien Potencier ;))
>>
>> If I may suggest a solution to this issue, have a look at
>> http://trac.agavi.org/browser/branches/0.11 and how we organized  
>> these
>> things (LICENSE, LICENSE-xyz and COPYRIGHT files).
>>
>>
>>> If symfony violates some licences, please contact me directly and  
>>> I will
>>> act promptly. I have done this before and you know this.
>>
>> Yeah I saw that you finally added ICU's license.txt. I believe  
>> that if
>> you add the correct license information for all bundled or adapted
>> stuff, most licensing issues should be solved (don't forget, for
>> instance, to mention that a lot of the i18n stuff is copied from  
>> Prado
>> etc). Feel free to mimic out approach to use both LICENSE files (for
>> things you bundle) and COPYRIGHT (for things you copied from other
>> frameworks).
>>
>> There's one other license problem I noticed:
>> http://www.symfony-project.com/trac/changeset/352 is from Agavi,  
>> which
>> is LGPL, and the file has since been modified, which means you would
>> have to put all of symfony under LGPL ;)
>> I talked to Dustin about this in Frankfurt when we met at the Int'l
>> PHP Conference (was great fun, you should attend next time) and I
>> asked him to shoot me an email so I could get "offical" permission
>> from the author of CreoleSessionStorage to grant you a special,
>> non-LGPL, license.
>>
>> I also talked to him about this whole licensing stuff and how the
>> projects where code was taken from aren't given proper credit in my
>> eyes, but he moved to San Francisco to take a job with Yahoo a  
>> week or
>> two ago and I'm sure he has been awfully busy so he didn't get to
>> email me or look into the issue in general yet.
>>
>> Anyway, these issues are easy to fix, but I believe they are very,
>> very important, and especially for a framework that considers itself
>> enterprise ready, they must be taken seriously. Let me know if you
>> need any assistance or further information, I'll be happy to help.
>> Maybe also check out
>> http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-devs/browse_thread/thread/ 
>> 2fd10f53f7a3e01a
>> in case you missed it back then.
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> David
>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>
> >


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