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Paul Rubin wrote:
> "Martin v. Löwis" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>> It means that these modules can do encrypted communication for their
>> respective protocol. They cannot validate that they are really talking
>> to the server they think they talk to (so they are prone to a
>> man-in-the-middle attack), however, as communication is encrypted, they
>> are protected against wire-tapping.
>
> Unless the wiretapper is running a man-in-the-middle attack...
>
That's pretty unreasonable: wiretapping is normally regarded as passive
listening - when the FBI tap your wire do they try and impersonate the
people you are calling? - and Martin already explained that
man-in-the-middle was still a risk.
Why muddy the issue with this "point"?
regards
Steve
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