On Apr 25, 2008, at 1:25 PM, shanncan wrote:
> > I agree that the name of the helper should change but its inclusion is > necessary. > > This is a pigheaded sentence (and I dont mean offense) but : Don't use > them if you don't like them. Clearly you're not getting me. Re-read my original post. I actually have never used them and I'm a heavy symfony user. > > > What I mean by this is : Symfony is a framework, it's the basic > building blocks. If you want better functionality in certain areas > (i.e Javscript and AJAX) then create the better solution. Provide the > solution as a plugin back to the community. I could, and there certainly are such plugins already. But it's the standard symfony provides which I'm concerned about. > > > The problem with new versions of anything is that function names > change and expected outputs from functions cannot be guaranteed to be > the same. At some point you have to settle on something - and this is > what has been done. IMO the functionality of prototype and > scriptaculous included with symfony is extensive for a good UI. You misunderstood me. To me the PHP functions should be consistent across all the proposed plugins (visual_effect, sortable_element, etc etc remain all the same API-wise). The only thing that changes is the generated javascript. > > > How would you get anything done if you are constantly updating > everything to the latest and greatest? > That's the problem to solve. Since Javascript is subject to so many modifications and is so dynamic (specially due to the number of frameworks), Symfony shouldn't choose for the developer, but the other way about. In any case, it could provide the would-be 'JavascriptPrototypeHelper' by default (and this is not just a naming issue, as I said, moving to a whole plugins-based approach is far more convenient) Guillermo Rauch http://devthought.com --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "symfony developers" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-devs?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
