On Jun 27, 10:00 pm, Fabien Potencier <[EMAIL PROTECTED] project.com> wrote: > Frank van Noorden wrote: > > On Jun 27, 6:29 pm, "Nicolas Perriault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 5:02 PM, Francois Zaninotto > > >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>> As for the documentation, the issue I raised in my initial post is > >>> that, if the CRUD generator cannot generate old forms, then the First > >>> Project Tutorial must not use this feature (as opposed to: explaining > >>> sfForms). I think it's a huge step backwards > >> I cannot see where using the new propel:generate-crud task is > >> difficult. To illustrate the form validation part, the reader will > >> have to copy/paste some lines of php (like he would have done anyway > >> with the old yaml syntax) in the autogenerated configure() method of > >> the generated form class, but is it really *that* hard? Maybe I'm too > >> used to the new forms system by now but that doesn't seem unreachable > >> to me, even for a beginner. > > >> What do others think? It would be nice to have some feedback here :-) > > >> ++ > > >> -- > >> Nicolas > >> Perriaulthttp://prendreuncafe.com-http://symfonians.net-http://sensiolabs.com > >> Phone: +33 660 92 08 76 > > > The main reason that so many people started with symfony is because > > there was a lot of good documentation and a splendid application > > (Askeet) to learn from. > > Now we have a updated framework with some very nice features, but the > > lack of documentation and wrong documentation will probably frighten > > the beginner. He will walk away from it, and try a different > > framework. > > What are you talking about? > > * The symfony book has been updated for symfony 1.1 > * The cookbook has also been updated > * We've added more chapters to the cookbook > * The form framework has a dedicated book > * And I'm updating the "My first project" tutorial for 1.1 > > The symfony 1.1 documentation is at the same level as the 1.0 one. > > Fabien > > P.S.: By the way, the askeet tutorial is not even compatible with 1.0. >
Sorry, I was refering to the tutorials, but used the word documentation instead. But I stick to my opinion, make the life of a beginner as easy as possible or the beginner probably stop using the product, find something else and will probably say something like: "Yep, I've tried it and it was a lousy product". BTW, Askeet convinced me one year ago that symfony was worth learning. Frank --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "symfony developers" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-devs?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
