>> It has been difficult for us to explain to clients why the newest 1.2 >> release is only supported until 11/2009 when the next release isn't >> out yet and the 1.0 release has support which is expiring only 2 >> months later. >> >> This makes any kind of conservative long term planning very difficult. >> If I'm starting a project today, do I pick the old release which will >> expire in 3 months, the newest release which will expire in 1, or the >> unfamiliar beta release?
Totally agreeing with this! The current info on the website is really scary for clients. May be re-word it to include community support or something? On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Sid Ferreira <[email protected]> wrote: > > Honestly +1 > Even if it gets updates only once each 2 month... > On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 19:38, David Brewer <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> +1 from me on this. >> >> It has been difficult for us to explain to clients why the newest 1.2 >> release is only supported until 11/2009 when the next release isn't >> out yet and the 1.0 release has support which is expiring only 2 >> months later. >> >> This makes any kind of conservative long term planning very difficult. >> If I'm starting a project today, do I pick the old release which will >> expire in 3 months, the newest release which will expire in 1, or the >> unfamiliar beta release? >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Tom Boutell <[email protected]> wrote: >> > >> > I understand that support for Symfony 1.2 is supposed to end in >> > November with the release of Symfony 1.3. >> > >> > What practices, if any, in Symfony 1.2 code are expected to be >> > incompatible with Symfony 1.3? >> > >> > I know Symfony 1.3 won't be the huge change that Symfony 1.1/1.2 were. >> > But I still don't think it's wise to drop support for practices >> > considered valid in 1.2 the moment 1.3 appears. >> > >> > Other long-established open source projects do not do this on such a >> > scale. Valid PHP 5.0.x code runs on PHP 5.3.x, with deprecation >> > warnings sometimes, but it runs. And 5.2.x is definitely still being >> > actively supported after the release of 5.3.x. >> > >> > It is very difficult to make responsible proposals to clients without >> > ongoing support for at least the previous minor version series for >> > Symfony. >> > >> > I know Symfony 1.2 wasn't supposed to be an LTS release but the >> > reality is that it was the first stable-enough-to-use release of >> > Symfony since the end of the 1.0.x series, and people have migrated >> > long term projects to it out of necessity. I strongly feel it should >> > be supported for at least a year after the release of 1.3. >> > >> > I also think it is appropriate to fix serious bugs like >> > http://trac.symfony-project.org/ticket/6937 in the 1.2 series, making >> > features work substantially as advertised unless the only possible fix >> > is a backwards incompatible change. But I can live without embedded >> > M2M relation forms ever working in 1.2. What I find difficult to live >> > without is enough stability that the Symfony releases page doesn't >> > frighten clients off. >> > >> > BC breaks in a mature system should be a major-version thing (2.0, not >> > 1.0), and there should be ongoing support of the previous major >> > version for quite a while when they happen. >> > >> > I love this framework - please help me sell it to my clients as >> > something that will continue to work for at least a year. (: >> > >> > -- >> > Tom Boutell >> > P'unk Avenue >> > 215 755 1330 >> > punkave.com >> > window.punkave.com >> > >> > > >> > >> >> > > > > -- > Sidney G B Ferreira > Desenvolvedor Web > > > > -- Blue Horn Ltd - System Development http://bluehorn.co.nz --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "symfony developers" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [email protected] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/symfony-devs?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
