A patch is simple enough, but how would we prove it is BC?

On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 2:59 PM, Jonathan Wage <[email protected]> wrote:
> Hi,
> I think the motivation for any of the core developers to take the time to
> implement these types of bloat convenience features is very low. You say it
> is BC, but we can't guarantee that. We don't even have a patch yet, nothing
> has been tested. No matter if you think something is BC or not, introducing
> a new feature means we're introducing a new risk that has to be managed and
> made sure that it will not cause any problems. Weighing the cost and hassle
> of it against the actual benefit just doesn't seem worth it to me. Just my
> opinion. I personally have absolutely no interest in implementing this
> feature and maintaining it.
> However, if someone were to provide a patch and prove that it is BC and push
> it through, then it might be possible. But, I don't see any of us doing it
> :)
> - Jon
>
> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 5:43 PM, Tom Boutell <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> I wouldn't bring up things like this if I didn't want to use Symfony
>> 1.4 anymore. (:
>>
>> The suggestion I made is backwards compatible.
>>
>> Fixing the build task to make it easier to specify alternate form
>> generators for Doctrine, and perhaps pulling the default choices from
>> factories.yml, would also be backwards compatible.
>>
>> I'm happy with 1.4 and getting tremendous amounts of work done with
>> it, but figured it couldn't hurt to make a suggestion, especially one
>> that does not break other people's code.
>>
>> I agree that a 1.5 release doesn't make a lot of sense.
>>
>> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 6:17 PM, Matthias Nothhaft
>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > It does not make sense to work on an sf 1.5 version - for the reasons
>> > you mentioned: BC break is a no go. IMHO all "problems" can be solved
>> > by creating an appropriate plugin.
>> >
>> > I really don't understand this 1.5 discussion. 1.4 is stable and has 3
>> > years support and after a few months it already seems nobody wants to
>> > use it anymore.. Doctrine 1.2 also is stable so.. I would expect some
>> > nice projects on top of sf 1.4, for example a CMF (would make sense
>> > from business perspective) but instead people complain about sf 1.4
>> > (again: it is stable) and wait for Symfony2 (will not be stable this
>> > year).. so.. I really don't get it..
>> >
>> > regards,
>> > Matthias
>> >
>> > On 30 Aug., 17:38, Lukas Kahwe Smith <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> On 30.08.2010, at 09:29, Stéphane wrote:
>> >>
>> >> > Any 1.5 so ? :-)
>> >>
>> >> > Shall we fork this ?
>> >>
>> >> > Any PoC on DI on forms on SF 1.4 ?
>> >> > What would it take to do so ?
>> >>
>> >> if there are _several_ worthwhile improvements on the table on top of
>> >> 1.4, i think we should consider a 1.5. in this case it wouldnt make sense
>> >> however to introduce the SF2 Di or form classes. for one they are 5.3 only
>> >> .. but more importantly it only makes sense to do a 1.5 if there are close
>> >> to zero BC breaks and essentially just feature additions. if there are a 
>> >> ton
>> >> of BC breaks in 1.5, then you might as well make the jump to symfony2.
>> >>
>> >> regards,
>> >> Lukas Kahwe Smith
>> >> [email protected]
>> >
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