On 9/23/10 11:57 AM, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote:
On 23.09.2010, at 09:25, Jordi Boggiano wrote:
On 23.09.2010 08:43, Fabien Potencier wrote:
I don't want to force the usage of services as controllers as it means
that you need to add a new service in the configuration each time you
create a new controller. That's just too much work for beginners and too
many things to understand to get started. That should be an option
though for all the reasons you and some others mentioned.
I'm not sure it's worth it for beginners tbh. I mean it's only good for
a "build your symfony hello world in 10minutes" article, but beyond that
people will be forced to go in the config to enable a service, or change
a parameter, and sooner or later they'll most likely have to be able to
create bundles and know about the whole service definition.
I just think it might send the wrong signal to people and that later
they have to do it right and convert all their routes, define all their
controllers as services and change their controllers to use injected
services instead of receiving the SC. I'd rather have a slightly steeper
learning curve without gotchas later on.
Yeah, I agree. Maybe we can have a trainee setup. Something to get up and running
quickly, but that we do not encourage to use in production. So the jobeet tutorial for
Symfony2 would begin with this simplified approach without configuration. Then after
explaining all the other aspects, they are told to change to the "proper" way.
I just feel that if we let this feature in to help beginners, those same beginners will
get burned one day, where they then have to change all their code at once.
I'm still not sure that using services for controllers is the "proper"
way. Anyway, it's at least now possible to use services.
Fabien
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