On 2/1/11 4:34 PM, dbenjamin wrote:
Hi,
I'm following discussions about that for a while now, and i must admit i
totally agree with Benjamin (Eberlei), and Henrik (but in a moderate way).
And even more when i read Jordi's arguments.
However, i don't agree about exception templates and form templates, or
any template, being part of the TwigBundle.
My understanding of the bundles is that TwigBundle, for instance, is
meant to add Twig support to a Sf2 project, and that's it, no more, no less.
IMO, each Bundle should ship templates for engines they decided to
support. Indeed, that would bring a lot of files which would never be
used, but i think that will always be the case, no matter the way you
choose to go with.
I admit i'm a bit frustrated about the decision to "accept" some
external dependencies into the core because it's a closed door for some
"not well known" tiers libraries/frameworks (home made i.e) which could
never be integrated as good as Doctrine is for instance (not sure about
the english of this sentence :p). But it's also an (dangerous) open door
for the future : "Hum, we did before, why not doing it now ?" and that
could lead to a "dirty" and someway "tight" core with time.
I really don't understand your point here.
What do you propose? No ORM at all? A Symfony-specific bundle? At some
point, we need to provide features. And these features are provided by
bundles. That being said, Doctrine is NOT coupled with Symfony2. If you
don't want to use it, that's not a problem. Don't use the related
bundles, and you're done.
And i'm even more concerned since i choosed to use Symfony 2 because i
was so glad and surprised to see the direction it took about flexibility
and reusability.
That's still the case. Nothing has ever changed in this regard.
Fabien
Cya,
Benjamin
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