On Tuesday, February 1, 2011 4:49:30 PM UTC+1, Fabien Potencier wrote:
>
> I really don't understand your point here.
>
> What do you propose? No ORM at all? A Symfony-specific bundle? At some 
> point, we need to provide features. And these features are provided by 
> bundles. That being said, Doctrine is NOT coupled with Symfony2. If you 
> don't want to use it, that's not a problem. Don't use the related 
> bundles, and you're done.
>

First of all i'd like to say that my message was not meant to be agressive 
at all and i hope you didn't take it that way, i'm sure you didn't, but i 
prefer clarifying.

I think i misspoke. You're right about providing features and ship them with 
Sf2. And the work around Doctrine and other third-party libraries 
integration is awesome.
My point is that ORM features are provided as bundles and AFAIK it was never 
the idea to implement ORM specific (even optional) dependencies into the 
core components, and i see that just as the little "negative note" inside a 
so "pure" core :)

I know that at some point, you have to take a decision and move forward, and 
by being too purist you could tweak until death and never release anything.
I'm just concerned about the fact that if you decide now to make some 
concessions and in a way "break" the agnostic nature of the core, what would 
prevent you to do it in the future ?
I'm very confident about your judgment and your decisions for the sake of 
the framework, but i just wanted to share my point of view (maybe i have 
some difficulties to formulate it).


Benjamin.


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