On 14.04.2011, at 10:26, Johannes Schmitt wrote:

> Correct me if I'm wrong, but 1), 3), and 4) are good topics to discuss, no?
> 
> On a side note I don't understand the difference between the new/old format 
> of IRC meetings, and I also don't understand why the old format was inferior.

previously we basically discussed stuff on IRC at any state of the topic. this 
lead to a lot of back and forth and "circular" discussion during the IRC 
meetings as the same arguments were presented repeatedly. also it always took 
several minutes to get people even into the loop about the topic. also this 
often lead to fairly quick-shot decisions that we later regretted.

the idea was that we would use the mailinglist to mature the state of 
discussion before the IRC meeting and more importantly ensure that there is a 
good summary of all relevant sides to the topic before the meeting so that the 
IRC meetings would mostly just be about resolving smaller misunderstandings to 
ensure that everybody has a common understanding of the view points and then 
come to a final conclusion.

now the fact of the matter is that nobody besides fabien and myself are willing 
to invest the time to work out a proposal and post it with pro's and con's to 
the mailinglist. but also it didnt seem like anyone really missed the IRC 
meeting, because nobody opposed this "change", so i am not pushing for a 
meeting. but hey if there is an interest to just "chat" with more people than 
usual being around thats cool too. but doesnt require me as a moderator 
organizing things. anyone can throw up a time and date on this list.

regards,
Lukas Kahwe Smith
[email protected]



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