On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 7:48 AM, Ronan Lamy <[email protected]> wrote:
> Le mardi 19 juillet 2011 à 20:49 -0600, Aaron Meurer a écrit :
>> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 8:43 PM, Mateusz Paprocki <[email protected]> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > On 19 July 2011 20:31, Aaron Meurer <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Jul 19, 2011 at 1:27 PM, Aaron Meurer <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> > Well, right now, we need to close the blocking issues, which are not
>> >> > many (see
>> >> > http://code.google.com/p/sympy/issues/list?can=2&q=Milestone%3DRelease0.7.1+&colspec=ID+Type+Status+Priority+Milestone+Owner+Summary+Stars&cells=tiles).
>> >> >  The first two I just need someone to review my branch.  The third is
>> >> > something that would be nice to have, but we could live without if no
>> >> > one gets to it.
>> >>
>> >> After I sent this, I just marked two more issues as milestone.  So to
>> >> be clear, the QT console one is the one that could potentially be
>> >> postponed if no one does work on it.
>> >
>> > It would be also nice to merge Lambda printer fix.
>> >
>>
>> I just merged it
>
> That's the Λ(x, 2⋅x) nonsense, right? I would have thought that pushing
> in controversial changes just before a release wasn't a good idea. But
> OK, I guess, let's clear out the review queue!

I am sure that (with enough will) there is a way to allow multiple
ways of printing for cases
where people have different preferences how to print things (like Lambda).

As for this particular thing, I don't think it's nonsense.

However, I respect that you have a different opinion Ronan, and I
understand your resentment that something got in, that you don't agree
with.
Given the nature of the patch (that it can be improved upon, allowing
different printing styles, see above) and given the fact, that
somebody will be unhappy either way (if this patch does or does not go
in), I think that it is more important to reduce the number of the
open patches in our queue, and so I 100% support Aaron's decision.

SymPy is an opensource project, and I do want a lot of people to be
involved with the development. The price for that however is, that
sometimes, not everybody can be always 100% happy, including myself
--- there are patches, that I am +0, or sometimes even a little
negative about, but if I can see good will, it is important to move
on, and let the momentum rolling, and unless something really
fundamentally breaks sympy, it can always be fixed quite easily. So
one has to be really careful about patches into sympy core, but for
printing patches, or adding new features, it's more important to get
it out of the way and improve upon it.

Ronan, if you want to talk about this more, as I offered you in
private emails, feel free to discuss it on the list, or privately with
me (or others). We can also talk over the phone, or any other
communication medium, that works for you. Feel free to ping me
anytime.

Ondrej

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