On Thursday, March 8, 2012 10:55:34 PM UTC+5:30, Aaron Meurer wrote:
>
> This looks like a good start.  Did you think about ways that some of
> these ideas can be used in SymPy Live too?
>
> On Thu, Mar 8, 2012 at 9:55 AM, Bharath M R <[email protected]> 
> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > I am Bharath M R, a student of Electrical Engineering at IIT Madras.
> > I would like to apply for the building the gamma.sympy.org site. I would
> > like to
> > implement the following things as part of the project.
> >
> > 1)Basic parsing
> > Something like solve x**2==1, integrate x**2 will be parsed and 
> interpreted.
> > Doing something like wolphram alpha would require a lot of ideas from
> > natural language processing which I am not familiar with.
>
> This is something that can be improved upon over time.  The important
> thing here is to start with a good framework in SymPy to build upon,
> so we can easily extend it with new rules.
>
> And no matter how much you implement, it will always be a heuristic.
> We just want it to catch the common case.  We can do things like
> provide a feedback button for mis-interpreted input, so we can get an
> idea of what doesn't work and where things need to be improved the
> most.
>
Yeah. I am going through the Match functions in the codebase and I should 
be able to figure out a way. 

> >
> > 2) An incremental search for functions in symPy
> > Its very important for a person to get to know the particular function he
> > wants to use. This will be implemented using ajax calls to the sphinx
> > documentation database.This will be similar to search in scilab /
> > mathematica.
>
> Additionally, there should be links throughout the interface to the
> relevant Sphinx documentation for the various functions used (similar
> to in WolframAlpha).
>
> >
> > 3) A lyx/ Mathematica styled input.
> > This greedily converts the expressions into latex symbols, so that the 
> user
> > knows what he is actually computing. We can also add a set of symbols for
> > summation, integrals, differentiation as a bottom bar. The input will 
> look
> > like latex input to the user, while we convert the expressions into 
> required
> > symPy functions in the backend.
>
> How did you plan to implement this?  For now, the way that I know to
> do it is to first compute the whole expression to SymPy, then call
> latex() on it, and parse the latex with MathJax.  That is what happens
> at SymPy Live.  It sounds like you want something that lets you type
> LaTeX styled math on the fly, which basically amounts to an equation
> editor.
>
I was thinking something like http://www.texrendr.com/.    

> >
> > 4)Matplotlib for plotting
> > We plot the expressions, if it is plottable just as Wolphram Alpha by
> > default.
>
> The app engine now supports numpy, so this should be doable (I hope).
> Our matplotlib plotting engine is still in its infant stages (for now,
> it only lives at https://github.com/sympy/sympy/pull/673), but it
> should grow.  Hopefully we will get another project that will improve
> it.  You could also spend some time of this project working on it,
> though obviously it would be better if most of the time were spent
> doing the other things.
>

Looks like I have to go with svgfig on this. The discussion at (
http://old.nabble.com/Pure-python-matplotlib-for-Google-App-Engine-td32721389.html
 ) 
says that a lot of c++ code has to be rewritten in python. I can write a 
backend for svgfig. 

> >
> > 5)Ipython like notebook.
> > I think it is possible to port the Ipython notebook according to this
> > discussion(
> https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/sage-notebook/re2bUt4vCxA
> ).
> > But the time it takes to port is not very fixed. I want to know whether 
> I am
> > overreaching by including it.
>
> Even without the notebook, we should use IPython itself in SymPy Live
> (http://code.google.com/p/sympy/issues/detail?id=2645), if that's
> possible.  That will give us things like better tab completion and
> access to IPython magic. My idea is that you should be able to click
> on a SymPy Gamma calculation and just get a little SymPy Live session,
> so the two projects are related.
>
I will figure out whether this is possible.  

> >
> > 5) Make the interface look beautiful with twitter bootstrap.
>
> +1.  I don't know anything about this specific library, but a
> beautiful, highly functional interface is almost as important as good
> functionality.
>
> Aaron Meurer
>
>

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