On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 1:42 PM, Saptarshi Mandal
<[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> And it would be awesome to have a group theory module.  We presently
>> only have a Permutation class in the combinatorics module, but other
>> than that, we don't really have a good way to represent a group.
>
> Is this necessary? All groups are isomorphic to the permutation group
> anyway. Groups for specific structures can make use of functionality
> implemented for them (matrix group -> sympy matrices, galois -> polys)
> for basic operations and can implement the mapping to the perm group
> module for group theoretic operations.

As Stefan noted, this is only true for finite groups.

And anyway, the point I was trying to make was that a permutation
represents an element of a group, whereas I was talking about a way to
represent the whole group.

Aaron Meurer

>
>> Obviously, to compute the Galois group of a polynomial, you need a way
>> to represent it, so for this idea, you would really need to implement
>> a group theory framework that we can build upon.
>
> Again, most of the concrete algorithms for groups are for Permutation
> groups only. I see that the book by Seress has already been
> referenced.
>
> I think a more fruitful venture would be to extend the perm groups
> module and leverage that to implement matrix groups or galois groups
> (but then again, I am probably biased ;)
>
> Cheers
> Sapta
>
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