I wouldn't trust much from that section anyway, though, since the
paper is from 1998.

Aaron Meurer

On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 10:07 PM, Aaron Meurer <[email protected]> wrote:
> Is that a preprint?  Some of the sections seem unfinished (for
> example, section 10).
>
> Aaron Meurer
>
> On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 8:27 PM, Alan Bromborsky <[email protected]> wrote:
>> On 03/17/2012 04:59 PM, Aaron Meurer wrote:
>>>
>>> On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 2:45 PM, Aleksandar Makelov
>>> <[email protected]>  wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I think a main reference is "Permutation Group Algorithms" by Akos
>>>>> Seress  - Cambridge Tracts in Mathemathics 152 published 2003.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks! The "Handbook of computational group theory" also looks like
>>>> serious business. Unfortunately, neither of these is a free resource;
>>>> I might end up buying one, I don't know.
>>>>
>>>>> I worked as a student last year and may apply as mentor this year.
>>>>> Please take a look at my branches in github. I was implementing the
>>>>> Schreier Sims algorithm but I ran out of time unfortunately. You could
>>>>> either help me merge my branches in or take off where I left.
>>>>
>>>> OK, I'll hopefully have the time to take a look this coming week.
>>>>
>>>>> Is this necessary? All groups are isomorphic to the permutation group
>>>>> anyway. Groups for specific structures can make use of functionality
>>>>> implemented for them (matrix group ->  sympy matrices, galois ->  polys)
>>>>> for basic operations and can implement the mapping to the perm group
>>>>> module for group theoretic operations.
>>>>
>>>> So I looked at the permutations module and it has a lot of nice group-
>>>> ish functions (like composing/inverting permutations, raising to
>>>> powers, conjugating permutations, getting the order (as an element of
>>>> the corresponding symmetric group) of a permutation, ...). These can
>>>> be incorporated in a representation of groups using permutation
>>>> groups; Galois groups would fit perfectly in this representation since
>>>> they naturally live inside the symmetric groups, and yes a lot of the
>>>> functions in the polys module will be helpful.
>>>>
>>>> Also, there are generators for common groups like S_n, C_n, D_n, A_n
>>>> in the context of permutation representations. All this provides a
>>>> nice foundation for defining a Group class or something like that,
>>>> with one of the ways of representing it being the permutation
>>>> representation. Other ways (e.g., matrices, character tables, list of
>>>> generators and relations) could probably be added later, and
>>>> functionality to go from one to representation to another?
>>>>
>>>> In other news, I found a bug inside the generators.py file in the
>>>> permutations module - the dihedral group D_2 of order 4 is given a
>>>> wrong permutation representation. I have a fix for this (well it's
>>>> quite straightforward, just manually considering the case n=2 and
>>>> outputting the right representation, because the general algorithm
>>>> fails there), what should I do about it?
>>>
>>> Submit a pull request!  This can be your patch for the patch requirement.
>>>
>>> Aaron Meurer
>>>
>>>> Aleksandar Makelov
>>>>
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