On Sun, Nov 02, 2014 at 06:56:31PM -0800, Richard Fateman wrote:
>    The Cathedral and the Bazaar essay
>    doesn't work if bugs do not become shallow with enough eyes.

I'm giving up.  Probably, I newer can understand why.  Esp., if there
is no difference for commercial support and it's obvious that "eyes" can
be of very different qualification.

>      Yes, but in first - you can do anything that can do a client of
>      closed-source vendors.  And much more (look to the code yourself, pay
>      someone else for support, etc)
> 
>    In principle.

No, as a matter of fact.  There is a lot of FOSS companies around.

>    Practically, are you willing to pay someone to become an
>    expert on (say) Maxima so that sympy can learn from it?

Practically, it could be much more easy for Maxima experts to
learn SymPy.  But yes, I don't see why the quoted above is
impossible: i.e. sponsored work (we have this, at least with
GSoC) or a commercial project, that rely on SymPy (at least I
have some invitations).

The bad news with SymPy - is that it's derivative could
be closed-source.  But I don't think such fork will be useful.

>      >      Apparently, Spain universities doesn't matter for the
>      >      Wolfram Research.
>      >
>      >    That sounds reasonable to me. 
> 
>      Are you sure that any academic institution does matter for Wolfram?
> 
>    I don;t know what their market looks like, but I am quite sure that the
>    people buying Mathematica for Univ. Calif ask the users at UC, and for
>    the most part they don't are about bug reports enough to cancel
>    the re-licensing...

An how much these users do care about the Mathematica bugs?  I see
a lot of people from Cal, who use something different in their work,
incl. the Python and scipy.org stack.

>    i agree.  It might be a problem with (say) addition of certain  big
>    numbers.

Or with caching, or...

>    This convention was certainly in wide use before 1961.

Better source?

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