On Tue, Nov 4, 2014 at 1:36 PM, Richard Fateman <[email protected]> wrote:
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> On Tuesday, November 4, 2014 1:02:54 AM UTC-8, Joachim Durchholz wrote:
>>
>>
>> Obviously, Red Hat does not exist in your reality.
>
> It does;  don't they deliver Pizza?
> Oh, sorry,. yes I heard of them.
>>
>> Nor the people who are doing SymPy, for example.
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> They get paid big bucks??
>
>>
>> Or... why are you here? We're not paying you after all. Still you
>> obviously prefer to talk here instead of making money elsewhere.
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>
> Personally, I've given away (BSD license) all the code that I've written,
> and
> some of  it has indeed been put into commercial software.  Some money
> was (voluntarily) contributed to my research program at UC Berkeley,
> and some even went to grad students as personal income.  (in spite
> of my not asking for any money).
>
> I think the prospects for my making some constructive comments here
> are non-zero, even if I'm argumentative.  There is a tendency for people
> doing Sage or sympy to be unaware of the previous efforts in the field,
> and to therefore repeat the design errors that have been mentioned in
> the open literature.
>
> So you are free to ignore my advice, write programs that reproduce
> the design flaws of Mathematica, Maxima, Maple, ...   I have no problem
> if you give them away, especially with a BSD style license.

Your advice is appreciated, but it would be helpful if you actually
took the time to look at what SymPy does, instead of just ranting
blindly. It feels like more often than not you mention some "mistake"
that SymPy has already solved (this Karr convention is a nice
example), in many cases a very long time ago.

You yourself admitted that you've never actually used SymPy. I
recommend giving it a try. You don't even need to install it. Just go
to http://live.sympy.org/. Every time you say "SymPy is stupid because
it doesn't consider X" when if fact we have already thought hard about
X a long time ago and implemented what we saw as the best fit for it,
you discredit yourself a little bit, because it's clear that you
didn't even do any research as to what SymPy does.

Aaron Meurer

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> RJF
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