I understand that there is no Google mandate on how organizations divvy up their slots. I'm just curious how NumFOCUS plans to handle all of this. >From my understanding, Raniere is part of Software Carpentry (which is fiscally sponsored by NumFOCUS) and instead of applying to GSoC as Software Carpentry he decided and got permission to apply using the NumFOCUS name. For example, the materials are hosted under the SWC github account, not NumFOCUS's, and the only ideas listed seem to be from Software Carpentry ( https://github.com/swcarpentry/gsoc2015). Actually, I'm not sure what the two ecology related projects are and what NumFOCUS sub-org they belong to.
It would be nice to understand how things will work with NumFOCUS before we start sending students in that direction. That is totally up to NumFOCUS to decide. But who are the decision makers for GSoC at NumFOCUS? Aren't we part of NumFOCUS just like Rainere and Software Carpentry are? Btw, I understand that Raniere put together the application, did all the work, and ultimately won the game so maybe that means that we have no formal say. I'll stop beating this dead horse now. Ondrej, you may like the idea of everything being informal at this level, but there are lots of people that are quite invested in GSoC slots and informalities are bound to result with hurt feelings. Jason moorepants.info +01 530-601-9791 On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 2:02 PM, Ondřej Čertík <[email protected]> wrote: > On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 2:51 PM, Jason Moore <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Jason > > moorepants.info > > +01 530-601-9791 > > > > On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 1:45 PM, Ondřej Čertík <[email protected]> > > wrote: > >> > >> Hi Jason, > >> > >> On Tue, Mar 3, 2015 at 2:41 PM, Jason Moore <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > Hi Raniere, > >> > > >> > Can you clarify what you mean by "applications"? > >> > >> The way GSoC works is that students send applications and they are > >> free to send it to any accepted organization. > > > > > > I see, but Raniere's statement could mean "applications from SymPy to be > > umbrellaed by NumFOCUS for GSoC" or it can mean "applications from GSoC > > students to NumFOCUS for SymPy related projects". For example, the PSF > now > > requires the sub-org to apply to be under their umbrella. > > My understanding is that this is all informal. PSF chose one way to do > it (I think they do a great job btw), > other organizations do it other ways. I am not aware of any official > rules from Google how the org "must" handle this. > > > > >> > >> > >> > > >> > Other umbrella organizations, for example the PSF, have specific > >> > guidelines > >> > in participating under their wing for GSoC. > >> > >> Right, every org has some formal or informal guidelines how they will > >> select students. Typically this is done based on how much they like > >> them, i.e. they sort them from the best to the worst, and then they > >> have to find mentors. Then depending on how many slots Google gives > >> them (i.e. typically Google gives 2 slots to new organizations, but > >> there can be exceptions), they accept the first N. PSF does it a bit > >> differently. > > > > > > Ok, so I guess then I'm wondering if all sub-orgs under NumFOCUS will > have > > say in selecting the best applications? The PSF, for example, asks each > > That is totally up to NumFOCUS to decide. > > > sub-org how many slots they'd like, then they request the full # of > slots to > > Google, and then they distribute the award slots among the sub-orgs > > proportional to what they requested. That way each org is pretty much > > guaranteed at least one slot. If NumFOCUS only gets 2 slots and there are > > more than 2 sub-orgs then it's more difficult. > > Indeed. PSF is an established organization, so they get lots of slots > from Google. NumFOCUS maybe will get more than 2, if they can convince > Google that they can handle it. That's up to the NumFOCUS admins. It's > always better to be prepared for the worst and hope for the best. > > Ondrej > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "sympy" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sympy. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sympy/CADDwiVCaHdGoqvw79QmymvQM2XvRKHDoU%2BeKS5%2B3fGLrnUTPNQ%40mail.gmail.com > . > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "sympy" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sympy. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/sympy/CAP7f1Ais2Xsrb%2BU-%3Dyf_8Lqe_gMRNfKeFVKUbuohpGKyD0wzeQ%40mail.gmail.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
