On Aug 12, 2013, at 6:55 AM, Lloyd Hilaiel <[email protected]> wrote:

> Now that some of the other challenging threads have died down, let's have 
> another one.
> 
> As I think deeply (at least as deeply as I am capable of) about how users 
> will log into different firefox products, and how we can really achieve a 
> high level of integration, I am reminded just how challenging this problem 
> is.  I'm at the point in my meditation where I have distilled things down to 
> a single most important question.
> 
> What are the cons of reducing the security of recoverable class A data such 
> that it could be accessed with a persona assertion asserting ownership of the 
> email address stored in your account?
> 
> Note:
> I realize that we've taken some shortcuts in email verification, and that a 
> verified email address in firefox accounts isn't as rigorously verified as 
> one in persona.  Ignore that for now.  Think just about the security delta 
> from competing products and our current design.
> 
> /me braces self
> lloyd
> 

Why do you want to do this? Federated access to your FA?

In our current plan, you need your FA password to access your class A data, but 
anyone that can access your email can also access class A data via the "forgot 
password" flow. Anyone that can access your email can also get a BrowserId 
assertion for you. So allowing BrowserId assertions for primary access to class 
A data is nearly equivalent to the current plan.

We lose the ability to track failed login attempts, etc. 

What's the use case?

-chris

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