Hi folks,
Thanks to a dedicated work from David Rylander, the submission from
application is completed.
If you find something of the replies inaccurate or improper please let us
know. Any other comment is welcome as well.

I plan to send a copy to Darco for his reference, since there are quotes
from him included.

I think it is a good introspection exercise in any case even if we are not
selected.
I don't want to delay too much more time the submission because the form is
in our hands a few months ago.

The form is here:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/qom0o59z0ankcex/SFC-Synfig-application_1.3.txt

Please read from top to bottom before reply.

Cheers!
Carlos

2012/12/27 Konstantin Dmitriev <[email protected]>

> Hi, David and Carlos!
>
> OK, I did some investigation about SFC, asking the trusted sources.
> They doesn't say anything bad about SFC.
>
> Also, looks like Inkscape does using SFC as donations holder -
> http://inkscape.org/donate.php
> Another interesting page to read: http://inkscape.org/conservancy/
> Regarding the Jasper's phrase - looks like by mentioning "problems
> with donations" he meant "donations aren't collected for certain
> purpose".
>
> So, it looks like my worries are groundless.
> Of course I'm both hands for transparency,
> My apologies for "false alarm".
> K.
>
> 2012/12/27 David Rylander <[email protected]>:
> > Hello,
> >
> > from what I understand SFC had difficulties but have been working duing
> the
> > autumn to get up to speed with applications and such. I think they are
> > limiting the amount of project they accept so that they are within their
> > capacity.
> >
> > As Carlos points out, transparency is a major advantage as well as having
> > someone to handle all funding. And having an organization behind Synfig
> is
> > crucial for having companies supporting. As it is now i'm having huge
> > difficulties with my accountant as well as the tax autorities when I
> want to
> > donate to Synfig from my company as the donations goes to a private
> person
> > (Carlos).
> >
> > Your example from LGM doesn't sound reassuring but it might be that
> Inkscape
> > is fragmented as a project so that each developer doesn't know what
> everyone
> > else is doing?
> >
> > Of course titmouse can hire someone to develop Synfig for them but that
> is
> > just one aspect of supporting. What if they want to donate a larger sum?
> I
> > don't think they, or anyone else donating larger sums would be
> comfortable
> > that the money goes to Carlos bank account. Let alone Carlos himself.
> >
> > I definitely think we need an organisation to support Synfig and from the
> > comparison we've done I think SFC would be the best one.
> > I think that by default they are quite neutral and that it is up to us
> how
> > we would like to use them and have them involved. Perhaps that is one
> reason
> > Inkscape developers aren't aware of their membership, that they haven't
> been
> > actively using SFC and thus not noticing much of their presence?
> >
> > In short I'm confident in SFC.
> >
> > I will during this week study the documents we got from SFC an do a draft
> > for the application. We can apply for membership and later decide on
> whether
> > we will actually become members or not.
> >
> > Cheers!
> >
> > -David
> >
> > 2012-12-21 14:55, Konstantin Dmitriev skrev:
> >>
> >> Hi, David and Carlos!
> >>
> >>
> >> It's been more than 4 months since we pinging the Software Freedom
> >> Conservancy and still there no results from them
> >> I see two possible reasons for this:
> >> 1) they have very limited resources and they are at overcapacity now
> >> 2) or just the bad organization
> >>
> >> That makes me think that joining them will not resolve any  of our
> >> problems.
> >> It's bad to be behind of organization that is so slow.
> >>
> >> Also, there's another thing that makes me think like that.
> >> I was at LGM, and there was a moment when I was standing in the hall
> >> with Jasper van de Gronde (from Inkscape) и João Bueno (from Gimp). We
> >> were talking about various problem and Jasper mentioned that without
> >> foundation organization there are always problem in handling
> >> donations. And they have such problems in Inkscape. I was surprised to
> >> hear that, so I asked Jasper: "Aren't you under Software Freedom
> >> Conservancy?"
> >> His answer was: "I'm not aware about that".
> >>
> >> That's why I think we should stop the procedure of joining to SFC and
> >> look for alternative solutions.
> >>
> >> I don't see the funding organization is necessary regarding the latest
> >> events about titmouse.net initiative. At the end they can hire anyone
> >> from synfig community as individual person (like it's often done for
> >> other projects).
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> K.
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > David Rylander
> > Rylander Animation
> > Bergsrådsvägen 102, bv
> > 12842 Bagarmossen.
> >
> > 0708-461978
> > [email protected]
> > www.rylanderanimation.se
> >
>
>
>
> --
> http://morevnaproject.org/
>



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Carlos
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