I have to agree with the TCP argument for syslog. If we are really talking about the next generation of logging why limit ourselves to a protocol that has proved to be limited in many ways. We are now monitoring and logging devices that are much more pervasive than just on our edges. In fact many times we are attempting to receive logs that in network spaces that we may only have limited access and control over. UDP as its nature has proved to be unreliable.
TCP offers a lot of advantages and a certain amount of overhead. But I believe that it is time to move to a more robust logging protocol. Richard > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of ALbert > Mietus (thuis) > Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 1:48 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Syslog Internationalization /UDP > > > > > I think that the internationlization is yet another last > nail in the > > coffin of UDP syslog. > > > Its just Really Time To Move On. > > > [...] TCP syslog is workable, practical and effective. > > There is just no more room [..] UDP syslog > > I don't agree! > > UDP syslog is fine in a lot of cases. > > The question is where internationlization is always a good > case. I don't thinks so Yes, it is needed for "user > applications, no we don't need it in technical complex systems! > > E.g. a Unix-kernel, of the RT core of a router is will be > written in "englisch-C" there is no need for i18n. Often, > there will be no room for ir either. However, it's need > logging. UPD-syslog will do fine! > > My idea is to think about "syslog" as a concept, without > (hard) limit's. It is a header with a prio, a timestamp etc > and "a short line of message". > > With UDP syslog, the line is upto 1K (Biut face it, I hardly > see line abouve 80 chars. So with i18n, 3 thime 80 will fit. > > TCP syslog, syslog-"whatever" doesn;'t need to inherite that > limit. Just the concept. But that doesn't mean UDP-syslog > can't bee used any more! > > > > > > ALbert Mietus > Send prive mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Send business mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Don't send spam mail! > > > ------------------------------------------------- > This mail sent through IMP: http://horde.org/imp/ > > >
