John,

I need to find it inside the mailing list archive. If I remember, it
came up during rechartering (2? 3? Years ago). It was along the lines
that a secure transport AND secure default for that transport are
required. This is the primary reason that -syslog-protocol and
-transport-udp can not advance to RFC before -transport-tls is done.

Rainer

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Moehrke, John (GE Healthcare) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 6:18 PM
> To: Rainer Gerhards; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Joseph Salowey (jsalowey);
> [email protected]
> Subject: RE: [Syslog] I-D
Action:draft-ietf-syslog-transport-tls-12.txt
> 
> 
> Could someone please point me at the mentioned IESG requirement to
> include policy decisions? This is a very unusual position. And as your
> own assessment shows is something that simply will not scale.
> 
> For example, there are healthcare systems installed on military ships
> where all network wiring is inside compressed nitrogen casings with
> sensors. This is clearly a sensitive environment, but they have
already
> managed many of the risks.
> 
> John
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
> Behalf
> > Of Rainer Gerhards
> > Sent: Friday, May 09, 2008 3:36 AM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Joseph Salowey (jsalowey); [email protected]
> > Subject: Re: [Syslog] I-D
> Action:draft-ietf-syslog-transport-tls-12.txt
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I agree to Robert, policy decisions need to be separated. I CC Pasi
> > because my comment is directly related to IESG requirements, which
> IMHO
> > cannot be delivered by *any* syslog TLS document without compromise
> > [comments directly related to IESG are somewhat later, I need to
> level
> > ground first].
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