Hi,

Better yet, **I'll** change the subject to #7 field order.

Thanks,
dbh 

> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darren Reed
> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 3:43 PM
> To: Darren Reed
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Syslog] RE: syslog-protocol draft
> 
> > > Darren,
> > > 
> > > an "I would like to see this too" is a good indication that a
> > > controversal feature is required. I have honestly posted 
> what I think so
> > > that all others can jump in. For the rest, see the archive ;)
> > 
> > Well, I don't want to disappoint you, but if someone else comes up
> > with something, I'm not going to "me too" it unless you actively
> > disagree with it.  Sorry if that spoils your party.  Most of us
have
> > better things to do than send and receive "me too" emails 
> unless they
> > are a vote.
> > 
> > Back to the issue at hand...for #7, field order...or field details
> > 
> > The "HOSTNAME" field should be constrained, in its definition, to
> > match that accepted for FQDNs.  "PRINTUSASCII" is too wide.
> > I believe you need to read RFC 1035.
> > 
> > Similarly, I'd like to see APP-NAME, PROCID and MSGID refined to
be
> > less than the entire character set.  A contradiction in 
> syslog-protocol
> > is allowing PRINTUSASCII for fields but a field of "-" is used to
> > indicate it is not there.
> > 
> > .I can imagine some people would like to consider that the
HOSTNAME
> > field should be unrestricted to allow for extended 
> character set names.
> > Allowing and supporting that should come when & if the IETF 
> decides to
> > go that way.
> > 
> > Otherwise the comment about "-" is that your grammar is 
> wrong because
> > you define various fields to be PRINTUSASCII*256 (or whatever the
> > length is), which specifically includes "-" as being a 
> valid field name.
> > It isn't.  You document it as representing the absence of 
> any meaningful
> > data for that field.
> > 
> > If you don't understand the difference here, I think the fields
need
> > to be defined something like this:
> > 
> > field ::= missing | non-dash | PRINTUSASCII*1 PRINTUSASCII*255
> > missing ::= "-"
> 
> And as someone else pointed out to me, PRINTUSASCII includes the
space
> charactr (0x20), which is used as the field delimeter.  This needs
to
> be fixed too.
> 
> Darren
> 
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