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From: "Miao Fuyou" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "'tom.petch'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'David Harrington'"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Balazs Scheidler'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "'Chris
Lonvick'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2006 4:36 AM
Subject: RE: protocol was Re: version field in syslog-tls - was: RE: [Syslog]
WorkingGroupLastCall: syslog-tls document


> Comments inline.
>
> > Not yet; I do not yet see one obvious right action to text.
> > Rather I see
> > choices:-
> > a) receiver terminates session unilaterally; currently this
> > is only allowed after an 'idle timeout' and closure alert.
> > 'protocol_version' alert would seem appropriate; do the TLS
> > stacks allow syslog to generate this?.
> >
>
> "protocol_version" is only for TLS version, it may not be inappropriate to
> indicate unsupporting application protocol version, it also may invoke
> another TLS handshaking.
>
> I checked "user_canceled" alert, TLS suggests (not strongly) that it can
> only be permitted during TLS handshaking, not after handshaking. Another
> option is to use "internal_error" alert, it is not very proper to meet this
> requirement. I tend to use "user_canceled" to indicate that the server does
> not support the version. Openssl has a fucntion ssl3_send_alert() to serve
> this purpose.
>
I agree; TLS alerts are attractive but seem to lack a user extension which
allows TLS applications to specify their own, context-specific ones, so using
one of them is a fudge.  Alternatively, creating our own application level 'ok'
or 'not ok' seems more alien to syslog; I await any other suggestions.

Tom Petch

> > b) receiver returns syslog text message 'not ok' which rather
> > implies a message 'ok' when it is, all of which is alien to
> > this simplex application.
> >
> > c) receiver terminates session. simple, but likely to cause
> > the sender to keep retrying for a while.
> >
> > Thoughts?
> >
> > Tom Petch
>
>


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