Hi Bazsi,

On Thu, 7 Sep 2006, Balazs Scheidler wrote:

On Thu, 2006-09-07 at 17:17 +0800, Miao Fuyou wrote:
Starting from TCP and then upgrading to tls is quite different to current
tls transport mapping document. If we decide to do UPGRADING, we may first
need a TCP transport mapping for Syslog, and then define a specific string
to indicate the other side to upgrade to TLS. We currently assume Syslog has
a IANA allocated port for tls transport mapping, we may not need such
complexity on upgrading.

FYI, HTTP has two tls mechansims: RFC2818(standards track) is similiar to
this draft, RFC2817(Informational) is on upgrading.

We clearly stated in our charter that we won't define a plain TCP
version (although I personally disagree).

I think that we have discussed this before; you are free to write your own ID on this. I know that others support this so you should be able to find people to help.


A simple capability negotiation can be useful for reasons beyond TLS
upgrade, like an optional support for Application Layer
acknowledgements.

I fear that if we start going down that path we will reinvent RFC 3195.

We need to continue addressing simplex syslog with syslog-transport-tls. We can address capabilities exchange either in 3195bis or it can be looked into in a future revision of syslog/tls (yet another good reason for a version field). If you get a lot of people doing syslog/tcp with a capabilities exchange mechanism then it should be simple to put that into a subsequent version of syslog-transport-tls.

Thanks,
Chris

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